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Old 10-12-2009, 02:32 PM   #1
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FFXIV Real time battle?

So far from what I have read, FFXIV will be "Real time battle" rather than the usual wait and pick commands type of FF games we usually see. But, what do they really mean by "Real" time battle.

Will it be more like a console game where you have to hit the same button over and over to attack?

Or will it be like FFXI is now with just more user controls.

It differs from person to person though.

What I think they mean is that it will be like a console game.((Gonna just make up a few things here.)) Where you are fighting something and you have to input every command. Like as a Drg you can select jump to attack an enemy at a distance, then have to run up, then scroll over to a side swipe attack, and a thrusting attack selecting each one as you fight.

A Real time battle type thing like that can become quite annoying after a bit as you have to talk to others as well to figure out where they are, and how to get from place to place.

What do you all think the combat system will be like?
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

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But, what do they really mean by "Real" time battle.
It means it's not turn-based. The enemy's not going to wait for you to choose what to do.
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Will it be more like a console game where you have to hit the same button over and over to attack?
Yes. They've already gone over this in interviews, plus there's those videos of the demo. You need to input an action for each attack.
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Yes. They've already gone over this in interviews, plus there's those videos of the demo. You need to input an action for each attack.
The videos arent that great of a quality. Its a bit hard to see them selecting the commands as well as you don't see a cursor scrolling between commands.

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It means it's not turn-based. The enemy's not going to wait for you to choose what to do.
Thats the same for FFXI is atm.
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

Read the sticky, there's information on the battle system.
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

... FFXI is real-time battle too.

The only difference is XIV has no auto-attack so commands are handled manually (in terms of the real-time combat; there are a lot of other changes in XIV as well)

In other words, no more going AFK during a fight.
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

I think when they said it was real time combat was just letting people new to a FF MMO know it won't be turnbased like the other FF's. A lot of my friends like MMO's but thought FFXI was turnbased so they didn't buy it.
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

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... FFXI is real-time battle too.

The only difference is XIV has no auto-attack so commands are handled manually (in terms of the real-time combat; there are a lot of other changes in XIV as well)

In other words, no more going AFK during a fight.
a third party app will be released within a month of the game coming out, that will simulate auto attack ;p
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

People would seriously go AFK during a fight cause auto attack?
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

If thats the only thing they could do, yeah. You'd spot them mostly in the dunes or qufim when the mob ran out of range and they stood there looking pretty.

Since you miss a lot during those levels, all people had to do was look at their TP from time to time I guess... when I played samurai ( my first job liek 20 years ago ) I did afk a lot, back in the day it wasnt pimp like now, i would miss 3 out of 5 swings >< it got boring fast.
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The problem is that people continue to assume that FFXIV is nothing but an upgrade to FFXI, and are still looking at every gameplay mechanic through the lens of FFXI.
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People would seriously go AFK during a fight cause auto attack?
I did it on all my DD jobs. even at higher lvls. IF the mob is taking forever to kill I switch to the internet and browse it. Type a few posts, and go back and see what my guy is doing. If he has 100 Tp, pull a WS. I would always keep an eye on the tab though. ((I can see whats going on in another tab real time thanks to Vista if I keep my mouse over it.)) I was never really afk, but it got boring though as I could just surf the web as I was killing stuff. It got real boring just sittng there and whacking away at the mob.
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Re: FFXIV Real time battle?

well it seems bots will be less likely since manual input is required.

they said there will be macros though.
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I did it on all my DD jobs. even at higher lvls.
Ugh... Don't mind me, I just hate hearing crap like that. I also hate seeing crap like that especially in zones and levels where having a tank means nothing (But they are needed anyways lol). I don't know how many times i've been fighting crabs in Qufim, then the crab will move and there will be some guy standing there all by himself hitting nothing (Most of the time, either the tank or the backup tank lmao.) I'm interested in FFXIV's battle system from what I've read about it. Hopefully there will be less AFKing and more challenge/fun than mindless/boring/repeated/pattern weapon swinging.
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I don't know how many times i've been fighting crabs in Qufim, then the crab will move and there will be some guy standing there all by himself hitting nothing
I would always keep an eye on the screen. I would keep my mouse on the tab, and it will show a small display of whats going on in it. If the mob moves, I see it, go to the tab, and move my character accordingly. I am not some one who just leaves it there and just ignore it for two minutes. I always keep an eye on it lol.
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well it seems bots will be less likely since manual input is required.

they said there will be macros though.
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A bot is designed to do manual inputs automatically. It's no different from having an FFXI bot auto jumping/stealing/whatever.
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If the mob moves, I see it, go to the tab, and move my character accordingly. I am not some one who just leaves it there and just ignore it for two minutes
I know, that wasn't really directed at you, it was just a rant. I just feel like as horribly boring as the majority of melee jobs are somtimes, and if I sit there and suffer though it so should other melees. Other jobs that have to wash/rinse/repeat spells and ja's (Looking at you mages, hybrid jobs, and dancer) don't have the luxury to do that because they are always on call (<call2> ). *Throws a rock that hits Valkurm Emperor. Durahansolo is too far away!*

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