[Kirihn]

I'd have to say that I would consider this thread a success, even if most of you don't agree with my point of view, other perspectives have opened me up a bit after reading through the lines.

This post I created was a result of a poll from my LS on Diabolos Server, since most of us are rank 5 or lower I would guess the view is a bit skewed. However, I do still stand by my points that it's gotten rough with prices now... in some ways they are coming down. (I was able to get a pair of Battle gloves for 3K the other day and a nomad mantle for 10K) I guess from one point of view it's hard to go from making 200K farming in a few hours to making a max of 40K from farming in the same ammount of time.

I remember when Fire Crystals went for 8-9K a stack, and just as most of you have said, since costs have dropped so have profits and in the end it all just seems like money is pouring out through invisible holes in my pockets. I suppose that's just the way it goes though, the numbers have changed but costs are still the same.

Regardless, I do think that the majority of you have cleared this up for me. If you do have any other comments though feel free to add on as the tidbits of information I've picked from reading between the lines here will probably help me a lot in the whole money making aspect.

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I find the only argument I see not having been made here to be the one most relevant.

SE will do nothing to repair our "PLAYER-BASED" economy. They have from the very beginning of the game stressed that the game's economy will be player-based. They did nothing to abate the massive inflation that we had a few years back, and they will do nothing again while the prices plummet.

All of their efforts into RMT activity in Vana'diel have focussed solely on those that are hacking the game. Only those caught exploiting, POS hacking, botting, and packet injecting have been the ones to feel the reaper's blade. All the still obvious RMT that you see plaguing Vana'diel when YOU go to earn money or items are just the ones not stupid enough to cheat to get it. They still pay, and still get to play.

And all the crafters are being hurt not just by RMT crafters but by themselves. You undercut to sell items by a little cause you need the gil, so does everyone else. Until the players start putting a value on gil instead of "Omgzorz i needz teh gilz now 0.o !!!!!11!" then this will continue to happen. I have personally been undercut by 150K on items I have crafted, and that doesn't even cover the cost of reagents at the moment.