12-28-2006, 01:55 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 134 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,252 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,252 Donate | Behind the scenes - Patches I'd love if SE could inform us some more about their general work behind the patches.
I've for example always wondered if it took them 3 years to notice people wanted split BP timers, or 3 years for them to notice the game needed split BP timers, or if the work and testing itself took 1+ years of testing and tweaking.
This would then make it easier to understand how they work, and why excellent ideas you run across on boards don't seem to be implemented. Other interesting things such information could tell is is how much something has to be suggested to be implemented. Is it enough with 1 email of a good idea, or do they just pile them up in sorted bunches until they've got 1000 of a certain idea before they even start to consider it?
In other words, it would be nice if SE could tell us the work behind patches, from suggestion sent in, or SE survey/reading of boards to implementation with time and workload estimated. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 04:20 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hell. In a handbasket. Posts: 80 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 49 Thanked 4x in 3 Posts Gil: 376 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 376 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches I would love to know why this latest patch didn't include a continuation of the missions. Did not enough people send emails asking for it to be continued? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 04:28 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,513 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,350x in 821 Posts Gil: 5,867 Bank: 151,649 Total Gil: 157,516 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Originally Posted by Toksyuryel | | I would love to know why this latest patch didn't include a continuation of the missions. Did not enough people send emails asking for it to be continued? | Because other stuff was included instead? These programmers do have homes and families to go to at the end of the day. They don't chain them to their desks.
They don't continue the missions based on people asking for it, they continue them based on a predetermined timeline. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 05:14 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Read my blog Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 92x in 64 Posts Gil: 4,687 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,687 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches What I want to know is that do they really think not making FFXI with window options stopping any type of bot at all? It's not even funny, but sad, that they would even suggest such a thing. Read my blog. ffxibrp.livejournal.com Currently: Entry #32, August 31/07.
Entry 32: Death to Castro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 05:22 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,513 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,350x in 821 Posts Gil: 5,867 Bank: 151,649 Total Gil: 157,516 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Exactly what does that have to do with the original question? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 08:54 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Read my blog Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 92x in 64 Posts Gil: 4,687 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,687 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches How about you explain to me how it doesn't relate to the question? Read my blog. ffxibrp.livejournal.com Currently: Entry #32, August 31/07.
Entry 32: Death to Castro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 08:55 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 251 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 3 Thanked 21x in 14 Posts Gil: 9,781 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,781 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Have SE actually answered any of the questions posed in this forum? It seems to have been going a while but I don't recall seeing any answers at all. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 08:56 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Read my blog Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 92x in 64 Posts Gil: 4,687 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,687 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Nope, not a single one ;o. Read my blog. ffxibrp.livejournal.com Currently: Entry #32, August 31/07.
Entry 32: Death to Castro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 09:04 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,992 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 458x in 301 Posts Gil: 214 Bank: 82,157 Total Gil: 82,371 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Originally Posted by Nazo | | Have SE actually answered any of the questions posed in this forum? It seems to have been going a while but I don't recall seeing any answers at all. | Square-Enix doesn't directly monitor this (or most other) FFXI forums. They do poll the administrators of various FFXI sites for feedback every once in a blue moon, and this forum is how that feedback is determined and passed on.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 09:40 AM | #10 (permalink) | | RABBITGAME Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,896 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 84 Thanked 216x in 166 Posts Gil: 25,762 Bank: 9,810 Total Gil: 35,571 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Most of the posts in this forum have either been rediculous or a complaint, so there hasn't been much to answer. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 09:56 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Read my blog Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 92x in 64 Posts Gil: 4,687 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,687 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Originally Posted by DakAttack | | Most of the posts in this forum have either been rediculous or a complaint, so there hasn't been much to answer. | If you would of asked him if I thought SE adding next tier armor was "ridiculous", I'd perhaps think so. But look at this, Salvage. Same could be said for Fellowship NPCs, Chocobo Breeding, and the whole cut half-the-exp-out-the-game fix one or two years ago. What do you mean by ridiculous? Because I've seen things here that has been neither ridiculous or a complaint. Read my blog. ffxibrp.livejournal.com Currently: Entry #32, August 31/07.
Entry 32: Death to Castro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 10:30 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,937 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 93 Thanked 226x in 158 Posts Gil: 10,005 Bank: 92,504 Total Gil: 102,509 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Originally Posted by Legal Fish | | If you would of asked him if I thought SE adding next tier armor was "ridiculous", I'd perhaps think so. But look at this, Salvage. Same could be said for Fellowship NPCs, Chocobo Breeding, and the whole cut half-the-exp-out-the-game fix one or two years ago. What do you mean by ridiculous? Because I've seen things here that has been neither ridiculous or a complaint. | Actually there have been numerous 'ridiculous' and 'complaint' topics posted in this forum, to deny that is to be flat out lieing. However that doesn't insinuate that *all* topics here were ridiculous in concept or simple complaints. And it's painfully obvious that SE *does* listen to it's player base even if they don't outright say 'this idea was brought to you by player XXX'. So as far as I'm concerned, judging by some of the things they've added into the game, yes, they do 'answer' questions in this topic. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 10:40 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,513 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,350x in 821 Posts Gil: 5,867 Bank: 151,649 Total Gil: 157,516 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches Originally Posted by Legal Fish | | How about you explain to me how it doesn't relate to the question? | A question about patch cycle and planning has nothing to do with Windowing options of the client. Originally Posted by Legal Fish | | I've seen things here that has been neither ridiculous or a complaint. | What is reasonable to a troll covers a much wider area then what most would consider reasonable questions. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 11:06 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Read my blog Posts: 979 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 92x in 64 Posts Gil: 4,687 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,687 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches | Quote: | | A question about patch cycle and planning has nothing to do with Windowing options of the client. | Clearly what is on their mind is important to this subject, let me quote the part where I'm speaking to directly. | Quote: | | This would then make it easier to understand how they work, and why excellent ideas you run across on boards don't seem to be implemented. Other interesting things such information could tell is is how much something has to be suggested to be implemented. | How many times does it need to be suggested before they finally are interested into putting it into the game? Why do they sometimes attempt to break the basic windower? What exactly are their thoughts on the matter, because I don't believe what Sage Sundi says.
Really now, who are you calling a troll. Your first response and every response in this thread has been nothing but negative banter | Quote: | | Because other stuff was included instead? These programmers do have homes and families to go to at the end of the day. They don't chain them to their desks. | A bit sassy there don't you think?
And I didn't say this section of the forum was full of great questions, I said its not all "trash". The reason why detailed questions are coming up is because history has taught up that the SE reps will respond more positively with detailed questions than vague ones.
Now about the OP... Read my blog. ffxibrp.livejournal.com Currently: Entry #32, August 31/07.
Entry 32: Death to Castro | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-28-2006, 11:18 AM | #15 (permalink) | | RABBITGAME Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,896 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 84 Thanked 216x in 166 Posts Gil: 25,762 Bank: 9,810 Total Gil: 35,571 Donate | Re: Behind the scenes - Patches The players don't know what they want, and if SE blindly complied with everything the players whined and complained about they might as well change their name to Blizzard. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:11 PM. | | |