Looking for Christian LS

Feba · 03-03-2008, 07:51 PM

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I know of quite a few.

And you can't list any examples, at all.

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People join linkshells because they share common interests (outside the game), because they live in similar parts of the world, because they are around the same age, because they all prefer a certain kind of conversation/interaction.

Of course people that live close to each other join LS together-- it's just good sense, playtime and language wise. I used to have quite a few AU and JP friends from playing late at night. It's not some profound thing. As to the rest, I call bullshit. I'd really like to see an LS that people join because of their age (LS that bar younger members don't count), or one based on "a certain type of conversation" (LS that use VoIP or HNM/Social LS comparisons don't count)

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There is a difference between "Hey, I'm looking for an LS of folks that share my faith." and "CHRISTIAN ONRY!"

So you're saying that he ISN'T looking for likeminded people, then? He wants an LS about Christianity, but not one that is inclined towards xian members?

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I certainly hope you're not going to be so blindingly stupid as to try and pretend otherwise.

Of course not. But I also don't form or join LS based on my political, social, economic, philosophical, or other interests. I've had LS from people I met IRL, I've had LS from in game friends, but you'd have to be pretty stupid to think "random LS babble about Ron Paul" and "Libertarian Linkshell" are anywhere close.

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What caused more of an uproar, what I said or the way I said it?

The way you said it, and for two reasons. First of all, this isn't the place to discuss it. Second of all, you sounded pretty damn toolish, and I basically agree with what you were saying on a more fundamental level. If you want to talk about how religion is for sheeple, go right ahead, but don't do it in a place where someone was just looking for advice.

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Telling them how dumb they are is like talking to a wall, and I have better things to do with my time.

I don't disagree with you. You seem pretty pissy, are you getting me and Dak confused? I'm just giving him advice that if he's that involved in his religion, this probably isn't a good place for him. Nothing about how valid his beliefs are. I could talk for days about the problems with religion, and my opinions on the religious, but there's no point to it.

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I mean, it'd be kinda like asking for vegetarian recipes in the Off Topic forums and getting a reply about how it's pointless to be vegetarian, you know?

Not quite. It's more like talking about wanting a vegetarian linkshell, and being told that you'll have a hard time finding one, and it's pretty much impossible to get through FFXI without sucking without ingesting some sort of animal product.

Sabaron · 03-03-2008, 07:58 PM

You will notice that the OP has not made a post since the first one. I think either you've been trolled or you've scared them off and they've lost all interest in what you have to say. This is now simply an argument for the sake of argument as your audience seems to have left the building.

As for the notion that a Christian is looking for a Christian linkshell--this is a common trait among people. Regardless of the "clique" they define themselves with, they desire to be with people who are like them. It validates their personality. I think the Man in White in Family Guy (styled after the late Marshall Applewhite) said it best when he said "Are you a confused adolescent desperately seeking acceptance from an undifferentiated ego mass that demands conformity?" It is a wonderful allusion to some interesting psychological literature, and tells you a lot about people in general.

You will notice that many of you have gravitated here to DiV rather than to Alla or KI because you're not "like" those people--you don't like them. They piss you off. You seek out a common environment in which you are not constantly being pissed off by those around you. All people behave this way.

You're just upset because the OP uses a religion to define her/himself. Your rather obvious attacks are intended to remove the OP from your ego mass--You don't like people who define themselves based on religion (or specifically Christianity) and since they are weaker than you, you attack and force them to leave your group. How do you define yourself? Have you looked into that? Don't tell me that you don't because you're a liar. Everyone does it. You may just define yourself as undefinable and that's ok--just admit it. There are whole groups of high school students who define themselves as undefineable that hang out behind the bleachers smoking clove cigarettes and cutting themselves...

WovenDarkness · 03-03-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabaron

This is now simply an argument for the sake of argument as our audience seems to have left the building.

FTFY.

Self inclusion. Nice transition from paragraph 1 --> 4 though.

Sabaron · 03-03-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WovenDarkness

FTFY.

Self inclusion. Nice transition from paragraph 1 --> 4 though.

I didn't include myself since I'm not really talking to the OP, but rather the other people in the thread who are directing remarks to the OP who has apparently gone away (I'm not sure of that, but I doubt if we see much more of HolyLion). My audience hasn't left the building... They keep posting and I think most of them are fairly permanent fixtures who don't even leave after they stop playing (Feba). Another note on reading my posts... You'll usually want to read them twice because I almost always edit them at least once.

WovenDarkness · 03-03-2008, 08:19 PM

Ahh. My mistake. Thanks for the clarification. I missed.

Neomage · 03-03-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by IfritnoItazura

Then again, I'm an atheist who thinks the Catholics are a sub-type of Christians, so what do I know?

Aren't they? Not to be offensive or anything but... Really... They are.

Theologically speaking, anyway.

Feba · 03-03-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabaron

You will notice that the OP has not made a post since the first one. I think either you've been trolled or you've scared them off and they've lost all interest in what you have to say.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge-- not everyone checks back on their forum post the same hour, or even the same day. I certainly don't check back on replies I make on other forums terribly often, and I spend quite a bit of time on forums, obviously. It's only been six or seven hours.

Either way, the rest of your post is hilarious. You are a horrible troll, Sabaron, you should stick to giving gameplay advice. The point of being inflammatory is to get people to make asses of themselves, not make yourself look like a total idiot.

Guitardy · 03-03-2008, 10:04 PM

Maybe his goal was to spark this discussion. You never know.

Caspian · 03-03-2008, 10:15 PM

OP: if you make it this far, grats. I'm on Fairy, but I'm unaware of any Christian ls's. Not saying a whole lot since I'm not on a lot, I'm sure there's atleast one. Like some others have said, it would probably be much easier to find a "family friendly" social ls. That is assuming you're looking for a "less offensive" ls.

Sabaron · 03-03-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Feba

I wouldn't be so quick to judge-- not everyone checks back on their forum post the same hour, or even the same day. I certainly don't check back on replies I make on other forums terribly often, and I spend quite a bit of time on forums, obviously. It's only been six or seven hours.

Either way, the rest of your post is hilarious. You are a horrible troll, Sabaron, you should stick to giving gameplay advice. The point of being inflammatory is to get people to make asses of themselves, not make yourself look like a total idiot.

I wasn't trying to be a troll... I was merely speaking to the fact that you can't not be a Black Pot Kettle Caller (Kettle Pot Black Caller?) because there's no possible way that I can't define any person in a similar manner to the OP (and be completely right). I don't care if you troll, go right ahead--this thread is perfect for it. As for the idiot part...well...I suppose you got me.

Feba · 03-03-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitardy

Maybe his goal was to spark this discussion. You never know.

Could've been. This forum is fairly open, though, there's not much of a reason you can't just start a debate if you're in the mood for it, as long as it's not too over the top.

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Originally Posted by Sabaron

because there's no possible way that I can't define any person in a similar manner to the OP

So what you're saying is, you didn't actually pay attention to what was being said, but skimmed and assumed because there was a debate that someone was insulting someone for having a religion? No. Try again. Nobody (well, maybe Dak, but nobody gives a shit about Dak) has a problem with the OP having a religion.

HolyLion · 03-03-2008, 11:53 PM

Ummm what up with off topic thing? Sorry i was on the road after I post this thread. I have lvl 32 war, lvl 15 mnk, lvl 24 drg and lvl 3 whm. I am only looking for chrstian people. I believe they are out there. If not then I would like to have a very friendly LS then.

There are christian gamers and you can check this out, www.christiangamers.net.......enjoy it.

And please dont jack my thread, thank you. I just simple want to find christian people that is all, cheers and wish you all the best.

Feba · 03-03-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HolyLion

If not then I would like to have a very friendly LS then.

There are tons of those out there. Honestly, the easiest way to meet LS members is usually through partying with them. If they seem nice enough, just ask if you can join their LS. Most non-endgame LS are fine with having new members.

Murphie · 03-04-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Feba

And you can't list any examples, at all.

I am not obligated to explain myself to you, Feba.

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Of course people that live close to each other join LS together-- it's just good sense, playtime and language wise. I used to have quite a few AU and JP friends from playing late at night. It's not some profound thing. As to the rest, I call bullshit. I'd really like to see an LS that people join because of their age (LS that bar younger members don't count), or one based on "a certain type of conversation" (LS that use VoIP or HNM/Social LS comparisons don't count)

I've belonged to several. But you wouldn't believe me if I told you, so why bother?

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So you're saying that he ISN'T looking for likeminded people, then?

No. Why are you being so hard headed here? Being in an LS with people who share is faith IS looking for like minded members. No one said anything about excluding until you came along and started trolling.

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Of course not. But I also don't form or join LS based on my political, social, economic, philosophical, or other interests. I've had LS from people I met IRL, I've had LS from in game friends, but you'd have to be pretty stupid to think "random LS babble about Ron Paul" and "Libertarian Linkshell" are anywhere close.

Hey, what works for you doesn't work for everyone. Some people join and form linkshells for reasons that aren't just like yours. Amazing!

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I don't disagree with you. You seem pretty pissy, are you getting me and Dak confused?

I'm not pissy. Just amazed sometimes at how ridiculous you can be sometimes.

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I'm just giving him advice that if he's that involved in his religion, this probably isn't a good place for him.

Why isn't it? How does "I would like to hang out with others who share my beliefs" translate into "I have no real interest in the game" for you? Based on the number of false statements and leaps of logic you've made in this thread alone, I'd consider you the last person qualified to provide him with any sort of valid advice.

Feba · 03-04-2008, 02:50 AM

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