Chocobo Raising Frustration - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

Greylynx · 09-14-2006, 07:43 AM

Is anyone else totally confused by the chocobo raising system? I am trying to raise a chocobo with emphasis on Strength, then Endurance. I don't really care about the other attributes. I follow the same schedule every day under "Care for Chocobo":

When is was a chick:
2 Short Walks, 1 Watch over Chocobo, feed Veggie Paste (Herb Paste when sick)

Adult:
1 Long Walk, One compete against others, Vomp Carrots and Sharug Greens

My care plan tends to vary, but its ALWAYS an activity that is meant to increase strength or endurance, like Walk around Town, Excercise with/without Others, etc.

So what are my problems? For a few days my Chocobo was "Ill tempered, suited for military use" but that went away for no apparent reason.

Yesterday I chocobo was bored and restless and the trainer suggested that if I let him compete we would be ok. Problem was he had already competed three times! I let him compete again well see if its fixed today.

Two days ago his strength FINALLY went from Poor to Substandard. But now its back to poor.

I just don't get it. I follow the same routines everyday with him while should his personallity and stats fluctuate so much. What am I doing to cause his restlessness? How about the decrease in stats?

Balfree · 09-14-2006, 07:54 AM

Chocobos are not clay.

What if your chocobo simply wasnt born to be what you want it to be?

Also, until alot of people do alot of testing, i doubt anyone will be able to help you.

Lambeaus · 09-14-2006, 07:58 AM

It does seem pretty random IMO. I've seen people do the same thing, and get different results.

Haggai · 09-14-2006, 08:18 AM

I would guess that you can't do much training on your chocobo until s/he is an adult. I run my chocobo hard. She's always competing, going for walks, exercising, & carrying packages. Everything is still poor. I'm going to keep on this track and hopefully she will get stronger as an adult.

Heartily · 09-14-2006, 08:25 AM

I've followed a pattern similar to yours, paste as a chick, carrots as a teen, compete once a day, long walk once a day, read both stories and every stat remains poor and has not changed. The only change was affection went to "reguards as parent" after the hanky scenario. I'm not impatient but it seems like I'm doing the right things with no results. I'll contuinue on, glad to know I'm not the only only puzzled by the lack of results.

Raydeus · 09-14-2006, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Heartily

I'm not impatient but it seems like I'm doing the right things with no results. I'll contuinue on, glad to know I'm not the only only puzzled by the lack of results.

Welcome to parenthood! Having kids is never easy (or so they say) so expect lots of headaches and troubles along the way.

Enjoy the ride.

PS> No I don't have kids myself but this talk sounded a lot like a parent meeting. :grin:

Greylynx · 09-14-2006, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Balfree

Chocobos are not clay.

What if your chocobo simply wasnt born to be what you want it to be?

Also, until alot of people do alot of testing, i doubt anyone will be able to help you.

You completely misunderstand me. I am simply making the point that I am doing my best (with the information that I have) to raise a good chocobo, and the inconsistant results make it hard to know if I am doing the right thing.

Macht · 09-14-2006, 09:14 AM

Yes, chocobo eggs have certain controls of a likely set of stats the chocobo will start with. Mine favors Azouph Greens a LOT, and constantly getting message of being receptive.

As I'm learning it seems you get bonus cutscenes if you find what that chocobo excels at. My chocobo happens to do horribly when I tell it to take walks, he gets sick, his attitude quickly becomes poor. It becomes a struggle trying to keep him healthy and keep his attitude up. Yet when I have him listen to music he loves that, his health becomes excellent, his attitude quickly increases and along with this I receive a bonus cutscene of how his receptivity has improved greatly.

Yet other LS members with the same egg type have different results. One member his chocobo favors Vomp Carrots, and constantly gets a message of being a very durable chocobo.

His chocobo happens to do horribly when he has it listen to music, health degrades, attitude quickly gets worse, and his even slept for a day on him. Yet when he does walks his chocobo's health improves, it's attitude becomes excellent even gets that message of being a bit aggressive and perfect for the military. Also as far as he can recall it was only during times of care plan with walk that he remembered seeing a bonus cutscene about the chocobo's being able to endure a lot.

The other member his chocobo favored Sharug Greens, and constantly gets a message of his being unnaturally strong.

His chocobo also does horrible with music, but excelled with walks. In fact it was by like Day 13 that the chocobo's Strength went from Poor to Substandard, and by Day 20 his now has Substandard for Strength and Durability. With him as well getting the extra cutscene about the chocobo's strength he can only recall happening when the chocobo went on walks.

As it seems what food the chocobo will favor and what stat(s) he'll excel in seems to be, for a lack of a better term, genetic. Likely the well raised chocobo's when breeded together it's off-springs chances of stats it'll excell in probably has some random base around what it's parents stats were.

Joran Dax · 09-14-2006, 10:04 AM

Well, aside from having a loving relationship with Azoph Greens, my Chocobo has shown no personality whatsoever. I've tried the Music and Short Walks equally over the last 15 days, and every indication I have gotten tells me that he likes both equally. Its stats have never been above poor, but I have had max love/relationship with my bird every other day. Usually I would take him for 3 short walks one day and use the rest of his health on the watch command, then the next day, only 2 walks with the rest being watch command, and on the days I would take him for 3 walks he would have max relationship with me. No inclination to any weather either. It would seem that my bird is a blank slate. So boring.

Well he just grew up yesterday, so I'm tring out the various new training regiments on him starting today. Hopefully he'll show SOME inclination to one of them and I guess if/when I find out which I'll just have to pump him up on that and hope to god at least one of his stats rises. I'd hate to think my birds gonna be a couch potato with no personality for the erst of his life.

Lambeaus · 09-14-2006, 12:08 PM

well, went home during lunch to feed Hyper Comet. He was happier. However he had injured himself. And he is in a bad mood.

How can he be happier and in a bad mood at the same time? I think SE may have rushed this job.

Macht · 09-14-2006, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Lambeaus

well, went home during lunch to feed Hyper Comet. He was happier. However he had injured himself. And he is in a bad mood.
How can he be happier and in a bad mood at the same time? I think SE may have rushed this job.

Not exactly, as I'm seeing it they set it up to having 2 part scenes. Previous day scene happens after the 24hrs only, and current cutscene. So you can have the one saying the chocobo was happier yesterday, then the one stating earlier today he injured himself and is now in a bad mood.

Greylynx · 09-14-2006, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Macht

Not exactly, as I'm seeing it they set it up to having 2 part scenes. Previous day scene happens after the 24hrs only, and current cutscene. So you can have the one saying the chocobo was happier yesterday, then the one stating earlier today he injured himself and is now in a bad mood.

Yeah but what about the people (thankfully not me) who had a chocobo sleeping for 3-4 days but still got the listening to music, walking chocobo, etc cutscenes? There does seem to be a disparity between whats heppening in the "Care Plan" and the chocobo's current status. I dunno if thats a bug but it sure is confusing.

Macht · 09-14-2006, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Greylynx

Yeah but what about the people (thankfully not me) who had a chocobo sleeping for 3-4 days but still got the listening to music, walking chocobo, etc cutscenes? There does seem to be a disparity between whats heppening in the "Care Plan" and the chocobo's current status. I dunno if thats a bug but it sure is confusing.

Well as still there is very lacking detail about that sleep situation, it is hard to give a feesable reason to it. Could be just that the game design is setup in such that the Day Cutscene only looks solely at the Care Plan and isn't checking against the chocobo's actual state. In which the second cutscene if you get would tell you what's happening.

Kitalrez · 09-14-2006, 01:37 PM

Out of curiousity, how are you telling which food the chocobo favors?

Macht · 09-14-2006, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Kitalrez

Out of curiousity, how are you telling which food the chocobo favors?

They'll eat the food differently, for example these are ones I got:

Munches on Vegetable paste
Quickly consumes Zegham Carrot
eats Azouph Greens in one gulp!

weakly consumes ______ (Get this one when it's ill)

Obviously the one they just gulp down they must of liked a lot. Mine when it was ill I feed it like 3 Tokopekko Wildgrass, the next day he was back to normal. He recovered quickly much like I do >.>