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Old 09-26-2008, 08:36 AM   #16
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

Between those two, Cletine wins in my opinion.
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Old 09-26-2008, 09:45 AM   #17
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

Problem with that is you need Gondo-shizunori, have it unlocked, and have Dreakesbane =P

Also, I beg to differ, if Thalo is the same as Mezraq then the -Eva is 25 according to FFXIClopedia, and that contribution to the party outweighs the increase in WS damage.
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Old 09-26-2008, 10:49 AM   #18
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

1) Taking this opportunity to Q_Q that my friend came back to the game and I no longer have a 75DRG/75BLU mule

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2) Yes, Cletine really only matters if you have Drakesbane, because Skewer just doesn't cut it compared to Penta. Personally I would still go Mezraq just because the difference between that and Thalawhozit is so marginal you'd never notice it, and(at least on Ramuh) it costs 100k+ less, which you could put towards a larger improvement in another slot.

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Old 09-26-2008, 10:54 AM   #19
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

I'm quite happy with my Thalo until Odin stops mocking my dreams.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:58 AM   #20
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

Gondo is outdone by other lances before 72. Imperial Neza being one them.
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

I've been asking some DRGs which is better to WS in, the Brutal Earring or the Minuet Earring (Because my 2nd earring slot is reserved for Fowling), I've been hearing Brutal for the chance at one of my hits double attacking during penta thrust, but then there are some who swear to just stick with the STR/DEX+1.

Don't know which to beleive.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:30 AM   #22
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

Brutal hands down.

How much will Str/Dex+1 boost your WS damage by?

How much will just one extra attack from the Brutal Earring increase your WS damage by?

The potential benefits of the Brutal Earring far outweigh the actual benefits given by the Minuet Earring.

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As far as I know, the Brutal Earring's DA could proc on any of the 5 hits of Penta Thrust, for a max total of 8 hits. So you could get anywhere from 0-3 extra hits from the Brutal Earring alone. You're not likely to get 3 extra hits, but it's possible.

And like I said earlier, +1 Str/Dex won't do much for your WS, I would not consider it for a macro swap in.
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:54 AM   #23
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Anyone who picks STR/DEX+1 over 5% Double Attack for ANYTHING doesn't understand how stats work and you should immediately disregard anything else that comes out of that person's mouth regarding gear advice.
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Old 10-15-2008, 12:49 PM   #24
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

Not really. Pole Grip is still going to come out on top, the damage boost from Brave appears to be about 3-5%, and Gondo is still a crappy weapon compared to Thallo/Mezraq and to a lesser extent Cletine.
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I think Malacite is just crit-obsessed.
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

Ugh this junk is making me want to level DRG now but I seriously need to merit the jobs I have first
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

:O So it's not as potent as X's Knife?

Damn it all. I was hoping it would do for Raging Rush & Drakesbane what X's Knife does for evisceration...
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

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Damn it all. I was hoping it would do for Raging Rush & Drakesbane what X's Knife does for evisceration...
. . . Are you serious? Please tell me this guy isn't being serious.
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Re: Dragoon Equips: This or That

I am. X's Knife isn't even that hard to get really (>. > if you can manaburn that is, that BC can be manaburned in 1 minute without 2 hours) so getting X's Knife is a lot easier compared to obtaining the Brave Grip (Your nation has to own all 7 areas, you need to whoop Orcs for the BC item and then beat the BC)

Both fights are fairly easy actually... the Orc BC being even easier BUT the conditions for triggering it are far more aggravating. As such, why the hell not make it 10% ? Gives me even more reason to try for that 15-18% Crit build on WAR (provided someone ever figures out a reasonable PW strategy)
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