Accuracy Build

[Greylynx]

I am currently DRG60/WAR30 trying to get an accuracy build so I can eat meat during XP parties. My current gear with regards to accuracy is:

Jeridah Peti (Acc +5)
Life Belt (Acc +10)
Mermans Gorget (Acc +5)
Grand Knights Lance (Acc +7)

And of course the Acc Bonus for DRG which is +10

I should also note that my Polearm skills are capped. So I have +37 ACC and capped polearm skills, but when I eat meat my accuracy is usually around 50-60%. I am fighting typical XP mobs for my level, and they never check High Evasion to me.

What am I doing wrong? I should be doing much better the 50-60% with ACC +37 right?

[Samuzuki]

I found i can never eat meat and get a good hitrate on IT with around +30 acc and skill cap, just how the game is evn on vt i perfer sushi, but i think if i get more hand to hand merits (im mnk) i could try meat.

[Liquidedust]

I am currently DRG60/WAR30 trying to get an accuracy build so I can eat meat during XP parties. My current gear with regards to accuracy is:

Jeridah Peti (Acc +5)
Life Belt (Acc +10)
Mermans Gorget (Acc +5)
Grand Knights Lance (Acc +7)

And of course the Acc Bonus for DRG which is +10

I should also note that my Polearm skills are capped. So I have +37 ACC and capped polearm skills, but when I eat meat my accuracy is usually around 50-60%. I am fighting typical XP mobs for my level, and they never check High Evasion to me.

What am I doing wrong? I should be doing much better the 50-60% with ACC +37 right?

Not a DRG at that level myself, but in order to achieve a hit rate of 85-90% as WAR without a BRD in pt 60-68 I needed around acc+30~35 and sushi on top of that.

So an approximate acc build with meat for 75-80% accuracy you would need around ACC+45-55 on top of your acc bonus trait I would say (depending on target mob VT, IT etc. . . .).

Basically you have to weight an accuracy build's total damage with meat (including WS) compared to a sushi builds total damage (including WS) to see what works best overall.

If you only target high T to high VT however you can get away with less ACC but before merit parties and merit stacked on top of your natural skill you will just have to get used to whiff a lot sadly (as for all melee jobs).

[Celeal]

You may want to check out the thread about lvl 60 DRG/SAM acc+ build:

Level 60+ DRG/SAM, the ultimate DD?

[Greylynx]

That is a great topic on DRG/SAM and I do intend to level SAM so I can use it as a subjob. However, in this case I am talking specifically about /WAR because frankly its the only sub I have access to now.

However, the /SAM topic and the replies here seem to indicate that +37 ACC just isn't enough. So I guess my options are to invest more gil (i.e. SH or Snipers Rings) or go back to using sushi.

Lets say I go back to using sushi then. How much of my +ACC gear should I now swap out for +STR or +ATT gear? How much +ACC is enough when using sushi?

[raidenn]

Thats not enough. Sushi and a Venerer Ring might do the trick. I have the same gear myself.

[Celeal]

I would say 20 ~ 30 acc+ (with Acc. Bonus Job Trait) is okay with sushi, because some gear slot is reserved for STR+/ATK+ equipment, or maybe BRD/COR/SMN buff in party. The goal is to hit as accurate as possible, while poking the mob as hard as possible at the same time.

[Greylynx]

Thanks Celeal! I guess I will probabally exchange an ACC item for a STR/ATT item, perhaps the mermans gorget, and go back to eating sushi then. I am shocked that +37 ACC isn't enough to eat meat but there is nothing I can do about it.

I hope to eventually get the Potent Belt and Chivalrous Chain, which have a nice mix of STR and ACC, but I haven't done even one assault so thats a long ways off.

[Davitron3000]

Not a Dragoon and I am just starting to enter the realm of being a DD full time on my Ninja, but I wanted to add a thought.

I think I would never use Meat over Sushi. (unless the mobs were low level and your acc on them is through the roof) It seems to me that you would want to hit as many times as you can. I would think that the damage you lose from missing would far outweigh the extra damage gained from using meat, so I would want as much accuracy as I could get/afford. Perhaps that is the wrong way of thinking though

Just a thought.

[Skoal]

What have you been fighting in your exp parties?

[Icemage]

I don't see a lot of effective melees in my parties using meat dishes, though the practice is much more common at level 75 with players who have heavily invested into weapon skill merits. For standard XP against high VT/IT+ enemies, sushi seems to be the standard from level 40-70+ since it provides such a large accuracy boost.

Your other option is to get a Bard and have them sing Madrigal (which gives a rather hefty +15ish Accuracy). This is primarily why Bards in parties were so dominant before sushi was introduced, and it's still true today.


Icemage

[Vyuru]

Well, you don't have many options left to you for more accuracy gear. You could get an Assault Earring (acc+2 I think) and a pair of Battle gloves. However that is only +5 more accuracy and I would be more inclined to using one of the gigas bracelets, or +att gloves. The earring is nice to have since it is +acc/att, if a bit pricey.

Are you wearing +acc rings? I don't see them in your equipment, so I am assuming no. Typically woodsman rings are cheaper than sniper rings, and they have +5acc. Get two of them and that's another +10 acc right there. You can also use a Venerer ring, it's quested or you can buy it on the AH, it has +3acc and tends to hover in the 150,000 price range.

If you got the +acc rings and the Assault earring, you will be at +49 accuracy, counting the +acc trait. I think that would be enough to go without sushi, or at least very close to being enough +acc.



A word of warning though. I also tried to do a meat using drg/war build, and right now I am pulling a ton of hate in parties while doing my best to avoid hate buildup. It is really really dangerous for me in exp parties right now, so I am not inclined to go with the acc build drg/war any more unless I can somehow get my old static back together, which doesn't look likely anytime soon. You might want to take another look at drg/sam, it seems to be a nice middle ground.

However, if you really want to make drg/war work with a +acc build, take a look at the pahluwan armor obtained from assaults, the body and legs in particular have some really nice stats on them. I don't know if I would use the full set, I think I would use the legs, body, and hat from it.

If you go the sam/war route, or if you eat sushi, I would recommend looking at the amir armor, it seems to be mostly +att and the body looks like a really good piece of armor with +10att and enhanced zanshin effect.

You can also pick up the Fowling earring, it's a +acc/str earring for about 500,000. It gives the added effect of bird killer which may be kind of nice if you solo birds and stuff.

How much of my +ACC gear should I now swap out for +STR or +ATT gear? How much +ACC is enough when using sushi?

It really varies by mob. Sometimes I can just use sushi and hit fine, sometimes I want a little more +acc. In general though, I tend to leave my armor as it is, all mobs are a little bit different, and if you are fighting in an area where there is a significant level difference in the mobs it's just not worth the headache and bother to be swapping armor to find the ideal setup.

That being said though if you want to fiddle with your gear I would recommend a Vanguard belt (+str/att) and a pair of +str rings. Otherwise I'd leave your other +acc gear alone.

but I haven't done even one assault so thats a long ways off.

Get moving on those assaults, it takes awhile to get a group to do them with, and it takes awhile to get all of the points.

I think some of the best gear for dragoons now comes from assaults, so I wouldn't wait too long to get started on them, especially if you want both the amir and pahluwan sets.

Also keep in mind the fact that the assaults you unlock with your mercenary rank are supposed to be easier than the earlier assaults, and give you alot more points for completing. You might want to unlock all of the assaults before really starting to save up points for items.

while poking the mob as hard as possible at the same time.

Don't forget to poke the mob with the pointy end of the lance!

[nanatsu]

Well I can tell you this. As a level 70 mnk with Optical Hat, Scorpion Harness, Life Belt, Woodsmanx2 and Chivalrous Chain, I was sitting at around +45 accuracy. Against Catoplebas that still made it a little difficult to splurge on meat, though I tried. I could hit them, but the accuracy loss was noticeable. Popping Focus completely fixed that. So I'd imagine +55 acc to be correct in terms of how much you need to get the kind of hit% you're used to with sushi.

[Malevolent]

When i hit lvl 60 with my Drg/War i already had my Rdm lvled to 37 to use as a sub for soloing but once i got my Drachen armet i soloed scorps in Crawlers nest and soldre crawlers deep in crawlers nest. I was averaging 120-175xp with empress band per kill using sushi. I had the same set up as you as well untill i got my first sniper ring and then started using arrabbiato as food. Arrabbiato is great for spamming Penta also^^ because of the Store TP.

Edit: If you can afford SH get one or if you have a spare Vclaw laying around get a LS mate to synth one for ya.

[Gwynn]

Another piece of equipment you might look into obtaining is the Jaegar Ring. It is dropped by the Carmine Dobsonflies (along with the Voyager Sallet and Carmine Bandana). It is Rare/Ex, and gives +4 Acc. The Carmine Dobsonflies spawn on an island in Riverne Site #A01. You'll at least need one full party to take them (having 3-4 SMNs makes them a cinch, although this may not be an option depending on what jobs your LS has). There are a total of 12 (I believe) Dobsonflies. Last time I went, we had two Jaegar Rings drop and one Voyager Sallet. About 11 Dobson Bandanas dropped, but really who cares about that?