[Rainsford]

Anyone have any idea how hard these NMs are, and how much help a 67 drg is gonna need on them? Thanks!

[struck]

Ocean Sahagin is a 21-24 hour pop. He is level 75 so you'll need friends to help you with him (full PT of 75's would do it) Lance is a rare drop.

Zuug the Shoreleaper I don't know much about. You can pop him by killing the Sahagin around F-10. You and a friend of any type for speed sake should be fine.

[Rainsford]

any idea how to get there? i spent about 2-3 hours camping the wrong nm

[Rainsford]

Ah i found it, its the f-10 behind the gold beastcoin door. The placeholders are 70ish and its a 24 hour pop. camped it for about 3 hours before going to sleep

[huma]

Zuug the Shoreleaper NM that drops narval spawns right outside the fake door near the npc sahagin pass (aka charbrydis area) through the gold beastcoin door. its not that hard. nobody ever camps it, so it usually pops after a couple sets of placeholders. dropped narval after 2nd kill on different occasions.

Ocean Sahagin NM that drops colossal lance is a royal pain because each time you go through the ornamental door, it requires you to get a norg shell (rare) and a gold beastcoin, then trade it to the npc sahagin (utsusemi: ichi room) through the silver beastcoin door. the sahagin key is rare/ex. the only way you can camp this NM is by subbing rng (for widescan) and staying by the fake door once inside the ornamental door. There's an Abyss Sahagin NM that'll see through sneak/invis and you cannot go pass it w/o killing it first. Ocean Sahagin is surrounded by 2 NM's (another abyss and coral), literally, they're next to each other (extremely hard to avoid linkage even with a SMN using carby to pull). Also around those 3 NM's are regular sahagins -- ie. delta, coastal, etc.

Ocean sahagin and the other 2 NM's are fairly easy. It can be done with 4 people as long as the tank is 75 and there's a mage that can sleep the other 2 NM's.

Drop rate on colossal lance sucks soo much ass. I almost went mad getting it. Finally dropped after the 10th kill. about half the times i've killed it, i had a high lvl thf friend with me.. good luck.

[DrSerpico]

We did narval with 7 ppl...

67's * 6 = whm, rdm, thf, drg, rng, pld
58's * 1 = Sam.

The sam handled the wyvern first, then helped the others with the main honcho... The AoE is a bitch, and 2 67's MIGHT do it, but it's not recommended.

couple of 70's or a party of 65+ should be quite ok.