08-17-2003, 03:30 PM | #16 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 50 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 166 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 166 Donate | YAY! go cobbi go cobbi  i am an aspiring taru dragoon and im ready to follow in ur footsteps  imma wait for ur "guide" to ask sum more questions...  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-17-2003, 03:53 PM | #17 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 28 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 107 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 107 Donate | HAHA . . . ive got yet again another question . . . ok for your dragons that you can sommon are they like a pet or do they have a sertain time youget them for and then they disapere??? answer that my friend and i wont have questions about that anymore   "Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-17-2003, 10:45 PM | #18 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,634 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,634 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by Cobalt Katze Heh, I was just about to start writing mine when I saw this and got a tad discouraged.
I'll still work on my guide though, I'm just getting things organized first. But I plan to go in depth with all the posibilities a dragoon could have, since I see it as a very diverse job.
Just give me a bit, ne? |
I had a bunch of info written down for myself personally before, and decided to organize it into guide so there wouldn't be so much confusion around the board. It doesn't have anything particularly spectacular in it, just basic info.
You are a more experienced dragoon than I, so you can provide lots more insight on things like AF and advanced strategies for very high level parties.
I think that you also have field tested a greater amount of different sub job combinations.
There still a boatload of information that you can provide, I'm looking forward to it  ‚ª‚ñ‚΂ê?` /cheer cobbi | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-19-2003, 02:14 PM | #19 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 153 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 71 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 71 Donate | Its about damn time someone created a topic like this for Dragoons.
Thank you.  KUPO! ^^.....Kupo? O_O...........kupo... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2003, 08:02 AM | #20 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Hartford, CT Posts: 347 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,219 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,219 Donate | Would being a fully pledged healer drg/whm be ok? i mean after lvl 60. im sure u could get +mp stuff and drg would be healing too especially with af helmet. Also when u get to much hate u could super jump. u could also cure status with ws breath | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-20-2003, 04:54 PM | #21 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Hartford, CT Posts: 347 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,219 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,219 Donate | it would be nice if someone answered :sweat: btw i mean im gonna go drg/war to lvl 60 then try subbin thf, war , sam , whm depending on party needs | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-26-2003, 03:58 AM | #22 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,634 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,634 Donate | | Quote: | Originally posted by NuLLiFy Would being a fully pledged healer drg/whm be ok? i mean after lvl 60. im sure u could get +mp stuff and drg would be healing too especially with af helmet. Also when u get to much hate u could super jump. u could also cure status with ws breath | I don't know how doable it would be. Haven't tried it yet. I do know that it would be more feasible with an AF helmet. But remember this whole strategy rests upon your fragile wyvern not eating a couple area attacks and kicking the bucket.
I would think that this strategy would be better off for times in non-level up parties when you don't have any healers. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-28-2003, 10:13 PM | #23 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 346 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 385 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 385 Donate | What's better for all-purpose mode, DRK or PLD? I mean, I can see the obvious merits to DRK in the form of increased damage plus hate-cancel jump plus wyvern healing, but it seems that you're not benefitting at all from the addition of magic. (Not that either /PLD or /DRK will get you a boatload of MP anyway, but if you can swing it, what's more helpful to the party, a randomly thrown-in nuke or a well-timed Curega?) Combined with the Wyvern's heal, a DRG/PLD, it seems, could seriously lighten the workload of the party's WHM. Plus increased defense means you can take more hits, so draw hate and WS your heart out, and hop up high if you get your ass in too much trouble. :sweat: 
Ille deus Morpheus non est Morpheus de Matrice, sed Morpheus, deus somni et mutantis! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-29-2003, 02:21 AM | #24 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 3,634 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,634 Donate | Not sure what's better between a DRK and PLD sub; I haven't tried either of them. Generally, however, DRK and PLD aren't very good subs regardless of the main job.
Your MP will be very poor. Even at level 60, a hume DRG/DRKorPLD will only have 65 MP. Compare that to a level 60 hume whm/blm who will have 514MP. You can increase your MP with expensive items, but it won't make that much of a difference.
As for nuking, even full blown DRKs can't nuke very well. Also consider that you are restricted to spells half your main's level, and that the DRG's INT stat is one of the worst in the game. I wouldn't consider two or three weak spells "nuking", because with a DRG/DRK's piss poor MP, that's as many you're gonna be able to cast before you are SOMP (Shit Outta Magic Points)
PLDs can't use curega. That is a WHM only spell.
Healing with the wyvern? Good thought, but remember that in all purpose mode, the prerequisite for the wyvern to do heal breath is that the HP of one or more of the people in the party is less than 25%. Now, in a conventional leveling party where you are fighting totetotes, waiting until someone is at less than 25% health before healing him or her is rather dangerous.
Remember that in a party, you should "know your role". A party full of members who are the best at very few things is always better than a party who can half-ass everything. Leave the ass-kicking to the DRG, and leave the majority of the healing to the WHM.
The only way I can possibly see using the wyvern healing breath in a regular level up party is by equipping the AF helmet and subbing RDM, BLM, or WHM. Even then, however, I'm not sure if that would be all that useful due to reduced attacking power because you're not subbing THF, WAR, or SAM.
I'm not at level 60 yet, and don't have the AF helmet, so I can't make any definate statements. Cobbi, however, has, so his analysis on this matter would be much more accurate than mine. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-01-2003, 05:56 PM | #25 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 121 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,800 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,800 Donate | Thanks a bunch I dont know what I would have done without this post. thank you so much for all the wonderful info!!!!!! Lihain-Mithra/F~~~Ragnarok
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Ragnarok- Tears of Altana You are a Dragoon now, jump to your future and dont look back. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-04-2003, 12:03 PM | #26 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 375 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 919 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 919 Donate | since i just became a brand new DRAGOON  i want to give this thread a big bump..
one of the best threads EVER made, bigup to everyone participating in this thread and to you hamster..
<-- loves his baby dragon, Azure :spin:
seriously.. the dragoon class is.. i mean.. i feel lonely whenever Azure leaves my side  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2003, 06:17 AM | #27 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 65 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 144 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 144 Donate | Well, since the thread is stickied... you don't really need to bump it... but it's the thought that counts.  "Don't blame me, blame yourself... or God" | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-13-2003, 11:06 PM | #28 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 106 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 224 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 224 Donate | Ah Nice. I am also going to be a tarutaru dragoon when i get the game. So, if you summon your baby dragon and it dies almost imediately, does that mean you have to wait 2 hours before you can summon it again???
If so, I at least hope they don't die or go away too easy or anything, 'cause it's the main reason I wanna be the class. I love having a pet!
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"Q: How long does my wyvern stay with me?
A: The only way your wyvern vanishes is if:
Your wyvern loses all of its HP and dies.
You die
You ride a chocobo.
You exit to POL in the field or in a dungeon. (If you logout, your wyvern won't disappear. If you go into a town first and then exit to POL, your wyvern won't disappear)
You change your main job.
You change your sub job."
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Never played before, just gathering info.. What do you mean, exiting to POL in the field or dungeon? how does this work?
IF you ride a chocobo, it just goes away, like it dies?? That's kinda dumb... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-14-2003, 07:14 AM | #29 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 151 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 165 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 165 Donate | If you lose it immediately, yes, you'll have to wait until your 2 hour's wait time is over to summon it again. Exiting to POL is exactly that, exiting to playonline. If you select it, you sit for 30 seconds, then you log out to POL. There you can check your mail and all that (even alt tab out, which is nice). And finally.. I don't know the exact details of the chocobo thing, but it won't affect you, too much.. when you're on a chocobo, you're either going to your leveling spot, or to a city, so you won't be using your wyvern for a bit anyway. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-14-2003, 08:59 AM | #30 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 106 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 224 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 224 Donate | ok Thanks a lot.
Though I do wish that the timer was less, like only 1 hour or something, I suppose it probably won't be toooo bad. Though, having not played the game, I have no idea.
Does anyone find the 2 hour thing really annoying? or normally does your dragon stay for a lot of the time? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:53 PM. | | |