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Old 08-23-2006, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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em|| bamboo cane g. katana
my first .dat ever. its a combination of the lotus katana and kazaridachi. i think it would look better with a sheathe, but i don't know how to do that. -.-


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Old 08-24-2006, 08:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Hrm shouldn't great katana have a curve to it? I'm not sure if you can actually call a straight edge blade a katana... But then again my knowledge on japanese swords is average at best, so I guess someone else can say for sure



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Why does every discussion have to be a little festivity of sorts, with purple doom rain and lunatic frogs singing the yodelay on top of mushrooms and little babies being eaten by crazy flying cows and green gas explosions on the horizon and screaming goats?
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Old 08-24-2006, 09:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Many great katana in this game are straight anyway. Yes katanas can have a straight edge.
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:19 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Weel unless you mean strictly speaking in the context of the game then I'll take your word for it cause I've not leveled sam past 10. Seeing as his is made for the game then yeah okay, my lil comment is moot. Speaking in real life terms tho, all katanas have a curved edge whether slightly or otherwise. The very process used to make a katana is what makes it curve. If it doesn't curve, then as far as I know it's not a real katana. I assumed it would be represented that way in the game too but I guess not.

Aside from all of that, I do think it looks very nice and cool and I like the design of it. I think the op did a good job.



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Originally Posted by Balfree View Post
Why does every discussion have to be a little festivity of sorts, with purple doom rain and lunatic frogs singing the yodelay on top of mushrooms and little babies being eaten by crazy flying cows and green gas explosions on the horizon and screaming goats?
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Seeing as how he did a great job, I rated him up.

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It seems that I managed to bring you two out of the red. Score!
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Old 08-24-2006, 10:29 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Originally Posted by Mog
Seeing as how he did a great job, I rated him up.

o.O

It seems that I managed to bring you two out of the red. Score!
off topic but I appreciate you bringing me out of the red. :p now let's hope I can stay out >_>



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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Actualy there are and has been straight edge Great Katana's. I own a few straight edge Katana's myself.





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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Looks good, if you made a short blade on that it would be a soorta nice Katana too or dagger O_o
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
I believe the straight edged katanas are called shinobigatanas or ninjatos. Not exactly I katana, but very similar.




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Old 08-24-2006, 12:13 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Originally Posted by Hyshio
Actualy there are and has been straight edge Great Katana's. I own a few straight edge Katana's myself.
Well not to turn this into a katana debate, but maybe you have a chokuto style blade? The kind of swords that came before what's traditionally called katana. Katanas are curved because of how they are forged. All the bending and folding of the metal and the composition of the metal forces it to curve. So if you have a straight blade it's because the katana was not bended and folded in the traditional manner. Hence why I can't say it's a true katana in my opinion. Is it a japanese sword? It's possible and probable. Of what type I can't say but it's definitely not katana.

There's an important distinction to be made because japanese swords went through three major style changes. At first they were straight, but they weren't called katana until the second major style change when they became curved.

Some reproductions of katana are just that, reproductions, and aren't created the way they're supposed to be. A lot of americanized reproductions have blades that are straighter and with a different style bevel than a traditional katana. The reason why your katana are straight may be because they are reproductions and not true katana.



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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
the blade is from the kazaridachi, a samurai great katana. and its straight because its meant to slide into a straight sheathe to conceal itself as a cane.

i used the wooden katana as the base, so it sounds like a stick when you hit something. if i can ever get vrs to work again i will fix it.



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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Originally Posted by nanatsu
Well not to turn this into a katana debate, but maybe you have a chokuto style blade? The kind of swords that came before what's traditionally called katana. Katanas are curved because of how they are forged. All the bending and folding of the metal and the composition of the metal forces it to curve. So if you have a straight blade it's because the katana was not bended and folded in the traditional manner. Hence why I can't say it's a true katana in my opinion. Is it a japanese sword? It's possible and probable. Of what type I can't say but it's definitely not katana.

There's an important distinction to be made because japanese swords went through three major style changes. At first they were straight, but they weren't called katana until the second major style change when they became curved.

Some reproductions of katana are just that, reproductions, and aren't created the way they're supposed to be. A lot of americanized reproductions have blades that are straighter and with a different style bevel than a traditional katana. The reason why your katana are straight may be because they are reproductions and not true katana.
Well you do have a point since ones that could be consealed as canes werent Katanas Traditional Samuria would use because it showed dishonor in battle.





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Old 08-24-2006, 11:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Woo, Katana debate.

First off:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana
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(I dunno how to make the 'clicky' into the link..., I'm a forum n00blet.)

Technically, I have 7 Katanas.

In actuality, I have.. (all fake crappy cheap reproduction stuff, of course) 2 Swords, 1 Chinese Broadsword, 2 Daito (one straight, the other curved.) and 1 Bastard sword.

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Katanas are curved because of how they are forged. All the bending and folding of the metal and the composition of the metal forces it to curve. So if you have a straight blade it's because the katana was not bended and folded in the traditional manner.
This is quite true. Samurai Katana where forged by master swordsmiths, oftentimes taking weeks to complete. Where the straight-blade Katana comes from is the Ninja weapons, because as they were outlaws and outcasts, they could not afford to or even have access to swordsmiths that were capable of making Samurai-class weapons. They had to make do with cheap, mass-produced items, and used them for other purposes as well as killing (for example, as a stand so they could get over a high wall). This also meant that if a Ninja was forced to kill a Samurai, they stole their far-superior Daito.

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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
Dont get it, why not just play with original models -.-
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Re: em|| bamboo cane g. katana
cause after three years of playing without graphics updates it got boring?
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