Go Back   Dreams in Vanadiel - Final Fantasy XI Forum > FFXI Game Related > Race & Job Type Q & A > Dark Knight

Post New Thread Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-03-2009, 03:30 PM   #16
Undeniably Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: JoMo
Posts: 137
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 19
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clever Ninja View Post
You brought playing the game how you want and monthly fees, which is what brought up the party questions, because frankly that attitude and excuse has been overdone so much it's caused grief for everybody. If you want to solo or stay in the Dunes to 75, then you could sub whatever the hell you want. I could sub COR in the dunes and it'd be ok. If you're not interested in min/maxing your character, why does it matter what you sub?

And on calling other people a 'scrub', seriously, gtfo right now. You ask us what's a good sub and a good build in a PARTY BASED GAME. The fact that Level Sync(which hasn't even been out for half a year) and people solo doesn't change the fact that for 5+ years it's been a heavily party based game, and is still a party based game. Thus, when people ask for advice, unless you SPECIFICALLY mention a certain situation like soloing, people will mention parties.

But it's ok, do whatever you want. It's your 12.95! That obviously gives you knowledge beyond belief and means you're infallible!

Your obviously a moron. I did state A FUCKING CASTER FOCUSED DRK. No, no I didn't state any of my intentions. SCRUB.

I've been playing 4 years, I left on a long hiatus for two years, and just now came back. I was just now introduced to the increased xp, the books, and the sync. I didn't know how long they have been in effect, but I know they changed leveling dramaticlly. This may no longer be a PARTY BASED game. Sub whm or dnc(excellent solo it seems) and you CAN solo, ANYONE.

I stated my direction of MY topic quite clearly.... scrub.

Seriously... scrub offends people so much... maybe its becuase.. GASP, they SUCK!

Wow, I can tell this isn't the boards for me. Scrubs. No wonder all other sites make fun of you. Your all elitist pricks.
Potemken is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 03:33 PM   #17
Senior Veteran
Iron Emblem of Service
 
Mhurron's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,231
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 145
Thanked 1,896x in 1,096 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to Mhurron Send a message via Yahoo to Mhurron
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

I think someone learned a new word today.
Mhurron is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 03:39 PM   #18
Where The Bad Things Go
Sterling Star
 
DakAttack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Confirmed
Posts: 3,357
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 137
Thanked 344x in 250 Posts
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

Wowserz. This topic was destined to go poorly.
__________________

DakAttack is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 03:43 PM   #19
Brooklyn Rage
Bronze Ribbon of Service
 
Clever Ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 697
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 26
Thanked 93x in 55 Posts
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

I'm laughing so hard that I can't type an appropriate response to this stupidity, give me a minute...

Ok, let's begin.

Oh, you wanted to be caster focused? But wait, what's this! You wrote something else after that
[quote]Well not focused, but I would like to throw an absorb, a stun, a drain/drain II, a thunder/thunder II, a bio/bio II, whenever I wanted, those are my fav spells./QUOTE]

So you want to do what every DRK already does + Thunder spells, and pretend your being unique, awesome! So pretty much all this means that minus your occasional awesome unique Thunder nuking, you'll be doing what every other DRK does, which is, GASP, what everyone has been informing you on! Also, moron, Level Sync = partying. Need at least 2 people to do that, and the 2 people have to be in a, wait for it, PARTY. Using that to try and say this isn't a party based game proves only further that are you indeed a moron.

And if by "other sites" you mean Allahkazam, honestly, you'd be a perfect fit there. It's where the other retards in our game like to gather!

Honestly the amount of fail you possess cannot be measured. And no, you haven't been playing for 4 years stupid. Stop trying so hard.
__________________
Cleverness - Hades
75BLU/75RDM/60SAM/57SMN/44PLD

"Man, the many things Jackie can do with just a chair throughout his movie career are amazing.
And then you placing him in an Ikea store...That is like Unlimited Blade Works on crack for Jackie."-Zohar on Gfaq
Clever Ninja is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 03:55 PM   #20
Undeniably Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: JoMo
Posts: 137
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 19
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

I haven't? Want to go to alla and check my posts from 4 years ago about my characters? And my questions about the game before I knew anything?

I didn't think so.

I don't think any drks cast multiple absorbs, spikes, bio, multiple drains, multiple aspirs, and multiple thunders per fight. I talking nuking, but not the cast, kneel type. I want to expend that mana or a very large chunk. Now if that whats drks do now, which it isn't, you should ahve said so. That's not what anyone said, it was the atypical "/THF /WAR PLOX OR GTFO".

I clearly stated what I was asking, why your a moron is beyond me, but please, keep up this assault. I'm loling too.

Also, moron, its not nearly as party only based. You used to wait for a pt for a long time, you used to not be able to solo unless you were rdm/nin or bst. Period. Now with increased easy prey and decent challenge xp, anyone can solo. Waiting times for pts have dramatically decreased, and with level sync more pt spots are available, with the ability to gain xp form ANYWHERE, no longer your typical areas. I know what a party is and I understand sync. Your to fucking critical. You knew exactly what I mean, party intensive.
Potemken is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 03:57 PM   #21
Proud Manthra
 
meSchnitzel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 114
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 2
Thanked 10x in 9 Posts
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

4 years and you've never played an advanced class? Wow... I call that dedication...

My hat is off to you, oh lord of the internets, 4 year veteran of the Final Fantasy Onlines, and master of the original starter classes...

This topic has made me laugh, and I have to thank you for it! Thanks Clever Ninja!
__________________
"We ride with kings on mighty steeds across the Devil's plain!" - The D

Ryddia / Nuikoa -- Ragnarok
meSchnitzel is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:01 PM   #22
Brooklyn Rage
Bronze Ribbon of Service
 
Clever Ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 697
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 26
Thanked 93x in 55 Posts
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

Yes please produce your posts from alla, and as well as a screenshot of your character with the chat mentioned your time played, as well as your job level screen with a message above/below it stating "I'm the moron". Not kidding.

I'm not gonna dignify anything else you say with a response cause you're obviously so full of shit right now that it's easier to just call you the moron that you are and keep on laughing. But hey, you've played 2+ years and couldn't get a job to 30 to unlock your first advanced job till now, you're obviously more pro then everyone here combined!

I'm seriously wondering how long it'll take your sorry ass to wise up and stop trying to get the last word in an argument you refuse to acknowledge you lost. Kids these days, you give other internet teens a bad rep
__________________
Cleverness - Hades
75BLU/75RDM/60SAM/57SMN/44PLD

"Man, the many things Jackie can do with just a chair throughout his movie career are amazing.
And then you placing him in an Ikea store...That is like Unlimited Blade Works on crack for Jackie."-Zohar on Gfaq
Clever Ninja is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:14 PM   #23
Proud Manthra
 
meSchnitzel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 114
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 2
Thanked 10x in 9 Posts
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

AHAHAHAHA I just realized what this guy is actually saying!

"I asked you for suggestions, not opinions!"

AHAHAHA
__________________
"We ride with kings on mighty steeds across the Devil's plain!" - The D

Ryddia / Nuikoa -- Ragnarok
meSchnitzel is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:16 PM   #24
Crime Solving Rank 11 Paladin!
Steelknight Emblem
 
Malacite's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: None of your damn business
Posts: 5,843
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 1,376
Thanked 525x in 366 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

I like DRK/WHM for the dunes. You're likely to pull hate anyway from that big ass scythe/sword and it's not like DRK's elemental magic is actually worth casting @ - @;

better off putting that MP towards cures for tanking/downtime. RNG makes a pretty killer sub from 20-29 for the +10 accuracy bonus (helps land those acid bolts!)
__________________


My Dream Samurai Gear
Malacite is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
The following user says "Thank You" to Malacite for above post:
Potemken (02-03-2009)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:19 PM   #25
Brooklyn Rage
Bronze Ribbon of Service
 
Clever Ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 697
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 26
Thanked 93x in 55 Posts
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

No Malacite, he wants to play HIS way. How dare you tell him how to most effectively play the job. You damn scrub.
__________________
Cleverness - Hades
75BLU/75RDM/60SAM/57SMN/44PLD

"Man, the many things Jackie can do with just a chair throughout his movie career are amazing.
And then you placing him in an Ikea store...That is like Unlimited Blade Works on crack for Jackie."-Zohar on Gfaq
Clever Ninja is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:19 PM   #26
Undeniably Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: JoMo
Posts: 137
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 19
Thanked 3x in 3 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

Quote:
Originally Posted by meSchnitzel
4 years and you've never played an advanced class? Wow... I call that dedication...

My hat is off to you, oh lord of the internets, 4 year veteran of the Final Fantasy Onlines, and master of the original starter classes...
Did you see my Returning post? Read it. It explains everything. I have one year of actual play experience and as for my lvls, well I've took a mnk to sky, so.... Yes a master of the starting classes.

As for you ninja, I didn't lose the argument, and a true debater never admits defeat, even when using a losing point or a point that is blatently wrong. I'm a creature of habit, my apologies. Btw, I'm 21. Not an internet teens, and most assuredly superior to you. Seriously tho... all this aside...

/Blu, /dnc is all im trying to get outta you guys here?
Thoughts? Synergys?

Any other cooky ideas and why you think they would rock, like drg/brd, but in refrenece to drk?

Thanks mal, you gave some input, the kind I wanted. That's what I'm looking for, two others have done this too.
Potemken is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:24 PM   #27
Senior Member
Brass Ribbon of Service
 
Rodin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,316
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 1
Thanked 16x in 10 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Rodin
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Potemken View Post
I haven't? Want to go to alla and check my posts from 4 years ago about my characters? And my questions about the game before I knew anything?

I didn't think so.

I don't think any drks cast multiple absorbs, spikes, bio, multiple drains, multiple aspirs, and multiple thunders per fight. I talking nuking, but not the cast, kneel type. I want to expend that mana or a very large chunk. Now if that whats drks do now, which it isn't, you should ahve said so. That's not what anyone said, it was the atypical "/THF /WAR PLOX OR GTFO".

I clearly stated what I was asking, why your a moron is beyond me, but please, keep up this assault. I'm loling too.

Also, moron, its not nearly as party only based. You used to wait for a pt for a long time, you used to not be able to solo unless you were rdm/nin or bst. Period. Now with increased easy prey and decent challenge xp, anyone can solo. Waiting times for pts have dramatically decreased, and with level sync more pt spots are available, with the ability to gain xp form ANYWHERE, no longer your typical areas. I know what a party is and I understand sync. Your to fucking critical. You knew exactly what I mean, party intensive.
The "I pay to play my way" mentality doesn't work in this game.

It's all about everyone doing the best they can to get as much XP/HR and cause as much damage to a mob as they can.

Getting an attitude with veteran players because you want to nuke on your Dark Knight isn't going to help.

Here's why it's LOL to use elemental nukes with DRK:

The highest tier spell a DRK can get:

Thunder II

Thunder II on my BLACK MAGE does ~300 DMG.

That's Black Mage...with my Elemental Magic Capped at 276 (278 if you count my lol 1 merit in Elemental Magic).

DRK has a B+ in Elemental Magic, which caps Elemental Magic at 256 at 75.

You're going to get a shit ton of resists with that on level 75 mobs. (For less DMG, prolly 160ish if you're lucky w/o a resist)

Now, take a look at the fabled DRK/SAM with a haste setup and desperate blows merited:

You can achieve amazing Haste percentage, meaning you will strike very fast.

Hasso: 10% Haste, and +STR

Meditate: Free 60% TP...

Third Eye + Seigan: Gives you shadows, so if you pull hate, you won't take much damage.

Drain Spells: DRK has an A+ skill in Dark Magic (Your Absorb Spells, Stun..) You can Drain Accuracy (to hit the mob with), STR (to add to your own +STR), and drain TP (lowers the mob's TP, and Raises yours)

My DRK/SAM buddy has a fully merited DRK, and when I merit with him, he does a FUCK ton of DMG.

But let's look at more Cons of casting elemental magic while you're a DRK.

You NEED to use MP, meaning casting will drain your MP pool....which means the RDM will have to refresh you (which the MP could be used doing other things). Or the BRD will have to use Pianissimo and Ballad, which means, you'll be missing out on Attack + Haste Songs....your DMG will be lower per round.

Also, the whole "It's easier to solo".....seeing as how you don't have a job above the 30s yet. I'll fill you in. 60+ you're gonna start needing 20,000 XP to level. At 74-75, you will need 42,000 XP to solo.

Soloing a DC mob 60+ Takes a LOT of time. It takes me 12+ minutes to solo an EM crab on my RDM/NIN in the Boyahda tree.

You COULd be a DRK/SAM FUCKING things up at that point, gettng 15-20,000 XP an hour.

Or you could spend forever soloing 60 XP per mob.

You could also spend 6 months to take a job from 30-75 (like my friend's BLU).

The choice is yours...but let me make a quick analogy:

You can try to be different, but just like in the real world.

The kid who's different from everyone else will look at the "normal" kids having fun, and say "Why don't they want to play with me?"

That'll happen endgame, where FFXI meets Srsbsns (Serious Business). People will just laugh and turn down your applications to endgame LSs, because you don't have proper subjobs.
__________________
75WHM 75BLM 75RDM 61BST 43SMN 38BRD 37 NIN

http://drunkenmoogle.livejournal.com ^^
Rodin is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Rodin For This Useful Post:
DakAttack (02-03-2009), Potemken (02-03-2009)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:25 PM   #28
Senior Veteran
Iron Emblem of Service
 
Mhurron's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,231
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 145
Thanked 1,896x in 1,096 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to Mhurron Send a message via Yahoo to Mhurron
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Potemken View Post
I've been playing 4 years,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Potemken View Post
I have one year of actual play experience
Can't wait for the 'hacking our shit' threats.
Mhurron is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:25 PM   #29
Brooklyn Rage
Bronze Ribbon of Service
 
Clever Ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 697
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 26
Thanked 93x in 55 Posts
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

23 content ID's?

And I also find it ironic that you claimed to be a perfectionist in that post, yet this topic shows something clearly different. Learn2stickto1story.

Still waiting on my screenshots, post one showing your 23 content ID's also. Could use some more laughs.

And why are you still asking questions? Did you not just finish saying our site sucks and that everyone laughs at us? Seriously, you're the worst fucking troll I've ever met, either that or you're bipolar.
__________________
Cleverness - Hades
75BLU/75RDM/60SAM/57SMN/44PLD

"Man, the many things Jackie can do with just a chair throughout his movie career are amazing.
And then you placing him in an Ikea store...That is like Unlimited Blade Works on crack for Jackie."-Zohar on Gfaq
Clever Ninja is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
Old 02-03-2009, 04:28 PM   #30
Wyvern Slayer
 
Fliegar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 255
Style: Light Theme V7

Thanks: 8
Thanked 15x in 11 Posts
My Mood:
   
Re: Thinking about Dark Knight....

I'm sorry for adding nothing to this thread, but this is very entertaining to read.
__________________

Day 4 in Vana'Diel, sitting with Sweetkitty.
Fliegar is offline   Button by Aksannyi :)
The following user says "Thank You" to Fliegar for above post:
Durahansolo (02-03-2009)
Post New Thread Closed Thread

Tags
dark, knight, thinking

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:22 PM.
Site Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1 Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC2
©2001-2009 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Title Design by Yoshitaka Amano.
FINAL FANTASY and VANA'DIEL are registered trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd. SQUARE ENIX, PLAYONLINE and the PlayOnline logo are trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Comments and posts are property of their authors. All the rest, including video, articles, compiled game data, and sections, unless otherwise noted, are
©2002-2009 FFXIOnline.com: Dreams in Vana'diel. All rights reserved.

no new posts
Page generated in 0.52314 seconds with 22 queries