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Old 04-27-2007, 08:47 AM   #1
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over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

hey guys! My DRK career is goin pretty smooth so far. Being a drk elvaan I know we're as blind as a bat. So equiping +dex gear always came first.

Recently I've gotten some pretty damn pricey gear to make up for it. It's as follows...

Deft ring +1
Def: 2 Dex+3


Venerer ring
Accuracy +3


Peacock Charm
Accuracy +10Ranged Accuracy +10


Royal Squire's mufflers
Def: 8 Accuracy +2

and some other +dex gear i can't remember though...

anyways, it's well over 15+ in accuracy. So my PLD buddy and I get a party going and head to CN.

I'm just excited to get into battle thinkin i'd land majority of swings. I figured I'd miss 1/10....

...not really. First swing? A miss...

hmm.

second swing... miss again

W T F

third swing finally lands... but by then I'm already wondering if my LS gil was well spent.

Honest to goodness, I wouldn't say I'm doing worse. But I'm definately ain't doin better. I haven't capped scythe skill yet... doing both GS and scythe at the same time... last capped both at 35. Since then it's been harder.

so what gives? Should I invest on more +dex rather then acc. gear? I thought 2 dex= 1 acc. so I figured acc. was the best choice. But maybe there's some hidden factors i don't know about? Or am I gimped in that department no matter how much gear i get.

has this happened to anyone else?
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:19 AM   #2
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

ACC is relative: both your character and what your character is hitting is part of the equation. I am not sure what is your DRK's level. Level of your DRK and the level of the mob has a huge impact. So do weapon's skill, your gear, buff/debuff, food, etc.

IMHO, for melee DD against Worker Crawlers (assuming no BRD or COR buffs in party), the performance from level 34~36 usually not impressive, level 37~38 will see good damage output.
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

To answer another of your questions, straight ACC is always better than Dex unless you can find an Ostrich Charm with +20 Dex. Did you check the mobs to see what they conned? that's an easy way to tell if you're overcamping or not. Unless you see Low Evasion in that check, your +15 acc is not enough. Either what you're hunting is too high or you're too low for what you're hunting. Or it was a fluke.

Also, you can still miss twice in a row with even 90%+ acc. It's just a matter of chance and odds. Eventually, over the course of the party, the benefits of your acc will add up, but missing twice in a row doesn't really tell you anything about whether or not your purchase was worth it. With DRK delay being so large, you'll definitely notice the misses more, although you're probably not missing more than anyone else. That's just how DRKs roll.
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

If you're really that concerned, try using some accuracy food.

Sushi is IMO something of waste still at those levels for what i costs, so I'd recommend either a Jack-o'-lantern for +10 accuracy, or rice dumplings for +5 and some attack up (the attack up sadly will be pretty low in 30's compared to other foods but it's better than nothing)
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

To give you some sort of perspective, at a little bit before level 60 and higher you will need at least 50+ acc from gear to hit things comfortably without using sushi. As you get higher you need more and more accuracy because mob strength scales much more quickly than player strength. That why EP pwn you later on.

Rice Dumplings are a good choice though. You really shouldn't need a ton of accuracy...yet.
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Not to point any fingers or anything.... but how did you manage to get a peacock charm at level 38?
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

he said his LS got it for him.
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

ahh ok. This is what I get for not reading everything. >.<
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

He mentioned "LS gil", so it sounds like he got support from his LS (static pt, perhaps?) to fund these items.

Peacock Charm is a worthwhile investment. Venerer Ring is a good alternative to stuff like Sniper's Ring and Woodsman Ring. Royal Squire's Mufflers is good for its level.

Deft Ring +1? It doesn't really provide enough of a boost over Deft Ring. I'd suggest selling the +1 back, buying a Deft Ring, and then upgrading that to a Sniper's/Woodsman Ring over time.

You haven't had both GSword and Scythe capped in several levels. It sounds like you're still trying to keep both capped at the same time. How far below cap are they? You might want to concentrate on just one of those two weapons in exp parties, and try to make use of skill up parties for the other weapon. I know skill up parties are somewhat rare at your level. But Genkai 1 is coming up. And if you don't have a bunch of high level friends who are going to farm the items for you, it's a good opportunity to skill up your other weapon. And if you *do* have higher level friends, try to talk them into doing some skill up sessions with you.
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

I wish my LS bought be 3million gil items ^^
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

I have more accuracy than what you have and I still miss. Just bring some sushi. I prefer sushi over dumplings because dumplings are pricier in my server sometimes.
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

oh snap! you guys reply quick..

ok for some minor details I left out. Current lvl I'm at is DRK38/WAR19

The LS i'm in is an endgame LS runned by two irl buddies of mine from way back in my highschool days. I'm the only one under 70 in it.. says, when the time comes... i'll have to pay them back... w/e the hell that means.

so its normal to still miss alot then? that kinda sucks
I just thought I'd hit more often, but I don't. Probably landing 2/3 swings.

I use food for str, since I'm neglecting it more then my dex.

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holy crap! >_<;


could you guys provide a list of gear that'll help with my dex/acc. ? Like the sniper ring Lyon mentioned... thanks again guys.
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

oh yea, almost forgot

my Scythe lvl is at 106 and GS at 102 ;_;

am I close to capping one of them?

I'll focus on scythe mainly and lvl GS in a skill up pt... if i can ever get one goin.
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oh yea, almost forgot

my Scythe lvl is at 106 and GS at 102 ;_;

am I close to capping one of them?

I'll focus on scythe mainly and lvl GS in a skill up pt... if i can ever get one goin.
Focus on scythe. Great Sword isn't all that great for XP parties. GS becomes more important during endgame though.
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Re: over +15 accuracy and I'm missing more then ever... wtf

lolDEX...
And, what? "Elvaan accuracy"?

I thought this fad was dead years ago...

Fact:
DEX is the most useless stat in the game.
Stop stacking it, unless you're a THF.

Fact:
Elvaan accuracy does not suck, and it's not an
excuse for missing. The only noticeable racial
differences are in base HP/MP.

Fact:
What the others said was true.
+15 Accuracy is nothing. You'll need alot more
for a decent TP build, as a DRK.
Also, capping your weapon skill levels is vital.
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