09-03-2006, 08:33 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 61 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 870 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 870 Donate | Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 I have enough money to get one of these armors, but am unsure about which one to get.
I know that technically, the Huaberk+1's lesser stat penalty makes it the better choice, however, considering the money investment I am making the broader lvl range and jobs that can use the Haubergeon+1 does have nice appeal; especialy since I still do bcnm60s. To any BLMs complaining about TP Burn parties; What goes around, comes around. Shut up. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 08:35 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 1,932 Bank: 28,327 Total Gil: 30,258 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 You already answered your question in that case. Hauberk +1 is nice, but you can't wear it in a BCNM60.
Plus, it's not like you evade much anyway, so -20, -10, whatever, right? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 09:21 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 956 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,122 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Yea you basically answered it yourself and most of the people I know with +1 versions have enough for both anyway for capped events but if you cant afford both get the one you can wear to capped events, unless your mates have one you can borrow. As far as the other stats go -5agi and -10evasion over the Hauberk+1 its not like they matter much as a drk anyway. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 09:41 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 506 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 9,842 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,842 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Haubergeon+1, tbh there is no reason to buy the hauberk when campared to a Haubergeon, unless all you do is uncaped stuff on war/drk/bst and will never play another melee job, and even if that is true there is no real offencive bonus too it and the evasion- and agi- only matters if you have a crapy tank.
EDIT: Also unless you have all the other luxury items for drk there is no reason to get a hauby+1 the NQ is fine as it is, on fairy you could get a hauby(4mil), peacock charm(8mil), 2 snipers(3mil total), assault earing(1mil), Amemet Mantle+1(1.5mil), bomb core(900k), potent belt(2mil) and enough gil left over to buy sushi for a lifetime for the price of a hauby+1(20-35mil). Last edited by pearlsea : 09-03-2006 at 09:52 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 09:43 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 956 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,122 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Well it maters if your soloing with /nin as youll probably loose your shadows quicker. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 09:54 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 506 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 9,842 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 9,842 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 If your soloing with /nin and you realy care about evation just buy a SH then >.>; | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 10:16 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 956 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,122 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 He asked about 2 specific armours, my answer is based on them. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 10:22 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,314 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts Gil: 3,248 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,248 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 One thing Hauberk is far better than Haubergeon at;
IT LOOKS ARGUABLY NICER AND SEXIER.
Sorry, NVM....
From a player who can't sell his Hauberk to get the money for Haubergeon as it has one of his friends' name as crafter on it, and that friend is no longer playing.
I should've asked him to make Haubergeon, not Hauberk... But I know I'll keep using this Harberk until I quit. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 11:54 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 956 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,122 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Yea the Hauberk looks alot nicer, especially on mithra as it doesnt have those long dangly bits like the haubergeon does. 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 12:32 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 2,229 Bank: 307 Total Gil: 2,536 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Personally I would go Haubergeon +1, but for different reasons probably.
I'm also leveling WAR, SAM, and possibly BST into this range, and I have a number of LS members who are in the 60's range wanting to do Assaults. SAM can't use the Hauberk, so having that Hauby +1, I'd get quite a bit of milage out of it.
For DRK ONRY usage? BCNM60's, Lv.60 cap Assaults, more available jobs, makes that Hauby +1 is real attractive. Personally I already have a Hauby, I plan to take WAR and SAM Lv.70+ along with DRK, maybe some day BST. So that's 3 out of 4 jobs who can use a Hauberk.
Hauberk +1 is ~20M on Lakshmi. With 20M I you could buy a Hauby, Hauberk, and most other items you'd need for DRK to Lv.75. (I spent 350k and bought all NQ Scythe's I'd need to Lv.75, except the Havoc Scythe.) Depending on how well you raise funds, you may want to consider that. Or if you can raise 5~10M pretty quick, buy the Hauby +1 now, and then start raising gil from the Hauberk +1.
Now that I've put more thought into it, I'd probably go Hauberk +1, until I could get my hands on an Adaman Hauberk, but for you sounds like you already answered your own question. Hauby +1 4TW!  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-03-2006, 01:11 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 61 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 870 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 870 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Thanks for the input. Honestly, this wasn't so much a question as it was a "need validation for my decision".
Although, now I'm considering just to swap my Hauberk for a NQ Haubergeon and investing my money into something else. Mabey get some more of the black armor made up; been eyeing the helm for a bit now. | Quote: | One thing Hauberk is far better than Haubergeon at;
IT LOOKS ARGUABLY NICER AND SEXIER. | You know, I always like the Haubergeon's looks better more then the Hauberk. The black is nicer, but I like the Haubergeon's spiker shoulders and skull belt buckle. To any BLMs complaining about TP Burn parties; What goes around, comes around. Shut up. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-05-2006, 03:11 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,250 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 62 Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 13,049 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 13,049 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Originally Posted by M_X | I have enough money to get one of these armors, but am unsure about which one to get.
I know that technically, the Huaberk+1's lesser stat penalty makes it the better choice, however, considering the money investment I am making the broader lvl range and jobs that can use the Haubergeon+1 does have nice appeal; especialy since I still do bcnm60s. | I'd go for Hauby. Since you seem to want to level other jobs.
However, if that wasn't the case, then the Hauberk +1. This should tide you over until you can get an E. Abjuration to upgrade to that sexy adaman/armada (I think there was a DRK on Titan or another server that posts on KI a lot who finally got the full set of Armada which blows my mind) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-06-2006, 10:19 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 216 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 216 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Haubergeon+1. Nothing more needs to be said, unless you have a 75 BST as well. But even then an Osode is situationally better. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-06-2006, 10:44 AM | #14 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 25,415 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 25,415 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 Also if you're planning to level war/sam/nin up, having haubergeon is better, you can wear it sooner.
I agree Hauberk looks better tho. I think the dark color looks even better than adaman's bright blue... There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-13-2006, 03:14 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ... Posts: 32 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 107 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 107 Donate | Re: Hauberk+1 or Haubergeon+1 get an SH and a Plastron (screw the Haubies) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:27 AM. | | |