 05-27-2006, 01:47 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Of The Seven Seas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: AL Posts: 176 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,767 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,767 Donate  | Ground Strike Any good info on this NM. I know its a tiger in Altepa, but thats a ll i know. any help would be much apreciated. thank you  BLM 75
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SAM 37
NIN 37
MNK 27
BLU 7 (who knows)
PUP 5 (staying right where it is)
DRG 27
SMN 12 (SMN75 oneday)
BRD 14 (no intrest as of yet)
RNG 5 (gil sink no thanks)
SAM 37
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Retribution: O Spiral Hell: O Ground Strike: O Savage Blade: O Black Halo: O Evisceration: O Decimation: O Steel Cyclone: O |  | ::Quote Selected::  | | | 05-27-2006, 01:49 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 4,737 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,737 Donate | Re: Ground Strike I helped a friend take it out. It's a tiger in Altepa. This guy is WEAK. Killed with NIN WHM SMN DRK RNG. Took about 8-10 minutes.
WS is really only for show. Spinning Slash > Ground Strike. 75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
Susan>> Why aren't there any female GM characters?
[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-27-2006, 10:37 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,417 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,417 Donate | Re: Ground Strike The one thing I remembered from my fight was it loved to spam Paralyze. To any BLMs complaining about TP Burn parties; What goes around, comes around. Shut up. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-28-2006, 02:08 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Of The Seven Seas Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: AL Posts: 176 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 1,767 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,767 Donate | Re: Ground Strike I just got the sword of trials, and for the love of god cant find a sc partner lol. so far the last 3 skill up pts , were loaded with thf and pld and mages. not one drg or sam. So far i have 100 pts gone from 100 spinning slashes lol. maybe i can have it gone by next sunday. BLM 75
DRK 75
WAR 75
SCH 75
THF 73
BST51
PLD 46
WHM 42
RDM 38
SAM 37
NIN 37
MNK 27
BLU 7 (who knows)
PUP 5 (staying right where it is)
DRG 27
SMN 12 (SMN75 oneday)
BRD 14 (no intrest as of yet)
RNG 5 (gil sink no thanks)
SAM 37
Beating up Gigas one at a time for their lunch money!
Retribution: O Spiral Hell: O Ground Strike: O Savage Blade: O Black Halo: O Evisceration: O Decimation: O Steel Cyclone: O | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-31-2006, 02:07 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 12 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 342 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 342 Donate | Re: Ground Strike it's not too bad of a nm in my opinion. had 2 rdm, nin, pld, war and drk if i remember right. myself and the war were bouncing the hate between the pld and nin and it went down quickly. couple of good DD and you'll be fine. does have a nasty paralyze attack but nothing a good mage cant handle! Both sides of the coin -  Saviour and Villan 
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Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 299 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 299 Donate | Re: Ground Strike | Originally Posted by Rodin | | WS is really only for show. Spinning Slash > Ground Strike. | 300TP Ground Strike > Spinning Slash  | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-01-2006, 01:31 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 29 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 609 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 609 Donate | Re: Ground Strike Ground Strike is one of the reasons I decided to level Dark Knight. It'd better not suck. :\
I'm planning to unleash it on an Orcish Fodder as soon as I have it. So does it work best with a Subduer, or is Balin's Sword adequate for end of the line purposes? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-01-2006, 02:10 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 4,737 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,737 Donate | Re: Ground Strike | Originally Posted by Erebus | | 300TP Ground Strike > Spinning Slash | If you're a DRK, and you have 300% TP in a party, you need to kick your renkei partner, and get another one. 75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
Susan>> Why aren't there any female GM characters?
[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-02-2006, 01:49 AM | #9 (permalink) | | I've returned Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA USA Posts: 1,626 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 6,775 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,775 Donate | Re: Ground Strike Ground strike can come in handy for Drk occassionally. Like if I'm in a merit pt, the leader will ask me who I can make light with. I went down the list and eventually said Ground Strike > Tachi: Kasha. We got a Drk and made decent xp. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-04-2006, 05:48 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 21 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 570 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 570 Donate | Re: Ground Strike Spinning Slash is on the same spot as Ground Strike. Ground Strike is really only good for HNMs, it seems to penetrate defense more than Spinning Slash. I don't know for sure which is better, because I'm forced to get on my NIN for all HNM events, but I am almost certain that Ground Strike is better for HNMs, SS for EXP. [無謀な火] RecklessFire
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Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,240 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,240 Donate | Re: Ground Strike | Originally Posted by fastcart | | Ground strike can come in handy for Drk occassionally. Like if I'm in a merit pt, the leader will ask me who I can make light with. I went down the list and eventually said Ground Strike > Tachi: Kasha. We got a Drk and made decent xp. | Yeah. SS and Ground Strike are in the same spot on the renkei chart, so I don't see why you would be choosing Ground strike over it.
Ground strike's NM is no big deal, a PT of the proper jobs could take him down, possibly even a PT of 4 with 2 NIN tanks if you really wanted to push it. The WS is really only good on Wyrms or Gods, where DEF is an issue (Ground Strike @ 300% TP ignores defense). | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-07-2006, 11:59 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 299 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 299 Donate | Re: Ground Strike | Originally Posted by Rodin | | If you're a DRK, and you have 300% TP in a party, you need to kick your renkei partner, and get another one. | Funny, I didn't see you mention anything about which is better in a party when you made the initial comparison. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-07-2006, 12:23 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,251 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 63
Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 14,312 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 14,312 Donate | Re: Ground Strike | Originally Posted by Credos | | Yeah. SS and Ground Strike are in the same spot on the renkei chart, so I don't see why you would be choosing Ground strike over it. | LOL ... common misconception.
Unlike Spinning Slash, Ground Strike can close and open Light. Because it occupies two elemental (level 2) properties. Most people believe that spots are interchangable with regards to level 3. IT IS NOT ENTIRELY TRUE.
Hence Ground Strike > Spinning Slash. Not because of the damage, but because it allows a DRK to SC with just about anyone and their grandmothers. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-07-2006, 02:11 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,286 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0
Thanked 7x in 5 Posts Gil: 4,737 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,737 Donate | Re: Ground Strike Spinning slash can both Open and close light. That's how I broke my latent for club.
Spinning Slash > Hexa Strike = Light. It works the other way too.
At least that's what I believe what you were trying to say; that you can't both open and close light with Spinning. 75WHM 75BLM 57BST 50RDM 42SMN 28BRD
Susan>> Why aren't there any female GM characters?
[GM]Dave>> Too many bannings every 28 days? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 06-07-2006, 05:24 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,251 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 63
Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 14,312 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 14,312 Donate | Re: Ground Strike | Originally Posted by Rodin | Spinning slash can both Open and close light. That's how I broke my latent for club.
Spinning Slash > Hexa Strike = Light. It works the other way too.
At least that's what I believe what you were trying to say; that you can't both open and close light with Spinning. | No, you're right Rodin. I slipped in that. What I mean to say was that Ground Strike can be on two sides, Light and Darkness whereas Spinning Slash can only be with Light. Sorry about that confusion.
Ground Strike is Fragmentation A
Ground Strike is Distortion B
This also means it's possible to perform a Ground Strike to Ground Strike SC (Resulting in Distortion)
Thus, Ground Strike > Spinning Slash on the basis of flexibility. Plus, at 300% TP, it blows Spinning Slash at 300% TP as well. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | |
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