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| Junior Member | Question about Soul Eater and Last Resort
Does anyone know how much of a % Attack rises when using these. Also is it halved when you sub DRK ?
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unsure about last resort %s but I can almost gaurentee it's not nerfed when subbed. Reason: Berserk's not nerfed and it's 6x as good. As for Souleater, it doesn't affect your attack. I'm not the Drk pro here but it seems that on main job it takes off 10% of your current hp and adds that directly to damage. As sub, it's 5%. I'm not sure if it still takes off 10% of your current hp or if it's 'safer' and only takes 5%. Even 5% is deadly when you think of a thief's dagger delay... |
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LR is a 15% attack buff, 15% def penalty, also has a hate spike, something like a 1/3 provoke. It lasts 30 sec, has a 3min recast. Yes, this ability sucks. SE adds no attack. It takes 10% hp and turns that directly into added damage on the hits you land. Drk AF helm enhances the effect with more damage, and I think more efficiency. Lasts 30 sec, boosts accuracy enormously (~20), reacast of 6 min, and adds a hate spike of something like a 1/2 provoke when you use it. The damage SE does ignores def--the only mob I know that is resistant to SE is an elemental (no soul?). Needless to say, this ability is extremely powerful on multi-hit WS and fast hitting weapons. |
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Souleater lasts for 1 minute. I didn't realize it gave an Acc boost. Has this been confirmed some place? I was also under the impression that DRK AF Helm just adjusts the amount of HP add. I've heard it boosts it up to 15% from the 10%. However, I'm just going to start doing my AF quests/hunts/kills tonight, so I've not worn any of the items or tested them.
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Sorry, SE lasts 1 min--brain siezure I guess. The acc boost is very noticeable. Can run around with a low skilled weapon and look at evasion with SE on and off. On IT mobs it's much easier to hit them with SE on, for better or worse. With AF helm it adds 12% HP to damage, but takes 8% HP; or at least thats what my last tests were at the begining of this year. I belive SE is gimped when you sub it, not sure how, can test it later on my rdm which just hit 60. LR isn't gimped subbed--not that it could be any worse. |
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So lemme get this straight. It will add 12% of your HP to the damage, but you only lose 8%? That RAWKS! I agree though, Last Resort is teh suxorz! The only thing it's good for is pulling hate! I'm convinced it pulls more hate than that, but then again maybe I just have the good luck to have crappy tanks.
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In response to fuz's comment about "it has no soul?".. Souleater is one of the worst translations in the game. Should have been translated "darkness" (it's the same as "dark" in dark knight). I heard it does 15% instead of 10%, doesn't stack with lv50 JSE, and +acc boost. Last resort is only good prior to a WS, and it's a 5minute recast, not 3.
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Just read a while back in the DRK FAQ (in the stickies section) that the JSE DOES in fact stack with the helm according to the OP of that thread and the tests he did. With helm it did 12% HP and 12% DMG to mob, with JSE and Helm it did 10% HP and 12% DMG to the mob. IMO definitely WELL worth stacking each other together when using S-E. IF the tests are true and that is the combo you get. here's the link to the test article from alla.com: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.h...3608865&num=24
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| Re: Question about Soul Eater and Last Resort
Well a 2% reduction in HP usage isn't really that significant because you're not getting additional damage per hit from it. Personally, I would rather just use another damage enhancing piece of equipment like lv55 san conquest pants.
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There's 3 articles of "enhances souleater" that a DRK can equip at once. It's been proven that stacking all 3 articles give no benefit whatsoever. Stacking 2 articles is dependant upon which two you're stacking together. From my knowledge, the CoP subligar is supposedly a good article, but I've yet to run my own tests and come to a conclusion. Gloom Breastplate (50) Body - Plate -Enhances Souleater Sable Cuisses (50) Legs - Plate -Enhances Souleater -Attack +1 Chaos Burgeonet (60) Helm - Artifact -HP +12 -Strength +4 -Dark Magic Skill +5 -Enhances Souleater To add to this discussion, I'm trying on various equipment in the 40 to 60 range and figuring out some hidden effects on a DRK. What happened was that when I had used LR once in my 40/50s ... I had calculated a 18% increase in attack and 18% decrease in defense. I'm not even sure if it was from some food I ate. I have to go and figure out how or why I had this and not the standard 10% that other DRKs say they see. Interesting enough, I get 10% now ... O_o Edit: Also want to add that I didn't notice any acc bonus from using Souleater. I've used it before on the Tormentors in Den of Rancor at around level 64 or 65 and I missed every single hit, despite dispelling any and all evasion boosts on that lizard (Got to the point where Dispel gave a message that it had no effect on the lizard and the RDM was a good 2 levels higher than myself)
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| Re: Question about Soul Eater and Last Resort
souleater adds acc.
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LR as I understood was always a 15% boost in attack. Maybe food attack caps are messing with your measurements. SE does add a lot of acc; about 20 is the accepted figure. It was very noticeable when I leveled drk back when sushi didn't exist.
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You're sacrificing your own HP... You're consuming your own Soul and turning that pain towards the enemy. As for the discussion? AF Helm rocks, Last Resort sucks.
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Of course, maybe subbing THF has a lot to do with missing than anything else *shrugs*
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| Re: Question about Soul Eater and Last Resort
I don't think Souleater adds a whole lot of accuracy, but I have checked a mob and had it have have low defense but not low evasion. Then after Souleater it has low evasion. I just think people over-rate the accuracy boost.
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