10-29-2007, 11:20 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Finally Back From Lunch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 544 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 81 Thanked 24x in 22 Posts Gil: 1,066 Bank: 20,808 Total Gil: 21,873 Donate | Introduction of the Whip? Hello All,
I believe the introduction of the Dancer into FFXI is the perfect time for SE to include the introduction of the Whip. Thinking about common weapons in RPGs, one doesn't usually think "whip!". But, it is an established weapon, and one I think is being sorely missed in FFXI. Let's think of appropriate weapons for the Dancer... Knife, nah. Sword/Staff/Scythe/Club/Hammer, nah. It needs something. We don't want the dancer to just get the scraps of BRD weapons either, it needs a real weapon! I hope/vote/like/want the Whip to come to FFXI riding of the Wings of the Dancer Goddess. Now, lets consider it... Yes, a whip would go very nicely with that AF... Yes, a whip would look very good with dance moves. Yes, a whip goes very nicely with a Dancer all around. Let me know what you think.
Thanks,
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Seeing as they've already shown videos of dancers in battle, I highly doubt that they'll add a new weapon class for one job. I believe the only other weapon type usuable by one job is the katana by ninjas, and I personally find that a pain. By adding a whip it would just be one more weapon skill to cap.
I would expect more of a baton type dance move (like a staff of sorts) to be added before adding something that would only be joked about. Too many Striper jokes about dancer already, we don't need to add dominatrix jokes in with the mix. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Necropolis For This Useful Post: | | | 10-29-2007, 11:41 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Finally Back From Lunch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 544 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 81 Thanked 24x in 22 Posts Gil: 1,066 Bank: 20,808 Total Gil: 21,873 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? Baton! I like that. Ya know, the dominatrix thing didn't even cross my mind... I still think Whip would work well with Dancer. And, it might even work well with the pet jobs, if you think about it. Server: Hades Home Nation: Bastok (Rank 7) Race/Sex: Elvaan/Male Main: 68 RDM/34 WHM Craft: 45 Cloth, 24 Fishing, 17 Wood (Read this at a normal pace...) Tihs Msseage Connat Be Raed By Nromal Huamn Biegns. Pelsae Ntoify Yuor Firedns Taht If Tehy Can Raed Tihs, Taht Tehy Aenr't Namrol...Cnovrresly, Atmpetnig To Raed Tihs Msasege At Nmaorl Pcae And Bineg Albe To, Cna't be Namrol Etiehr...If Yor'ue Albe To Raed Tihs, Tehn Mybae Yur'oe Not Nrmaol. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 11:44 AM | #4 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,902 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,705 Thanked 1,541x in 1,076 Posts Gil: 10,156 Bank: 566,551 Total Gil: 576,707 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? | Quote: | | I think you're thinking of the wrong kind of dancer... | I lol'd.
On a serious note, at fan fest last year, the AH had three additional slots under "weapons", but they were blacked out. Hopefully SE just didn't have time to add those weapons, and we'll be seeing them this time around.
Although I'll feel kinda sorry for addenak if they add more weapons.
(does he even make charts anymore?) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 11:45 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 776 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 126x in 92 Posts Gil: 142 Bank: 2,958 Total Gil: 3,100 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? I'd really like to see the Taru SMN whipping Diabolos to attack. Kind of like Ninja 2hr...yet different.
I meant baton as in more of a staff. I'd much prefer the expansion jobs to use weapons that already exist. That way I don't have to skill yet another weapon. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 11:50 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,002 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 101 Thanked 240x in 167 Posts Gil: 13,457 Bank: 119,663 Total Gil: 133,121 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? Originally Posted by Necropolis | | I would expect more of a baton type dance move (like a staff of sorts) to be added before adding something that would only be joked about. Too many Striper jokes about dancer already, we don't need to add dominatrix jokes in with the mix. | ...so giving a Dancer a pole would result in less jokes then giving them a whip?
Personally, the only weapons I could see a dancer using would be Daggers or one handed katannas. And if they were to add a new weapon class, I think some sort of Ring weapon, like a hand held Chakram, would be a better idea. It wouldn't require new attack animations and could make for some nifty WS animations. "I have a forebrain, my ability to abstract thoughts allow for all kinds of things" - Red Mage 8-Bit theater | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 11:57 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Finally Back From Lunch Join Date: May 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 544 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 81 Thanked 24x in 22 Posts Gil: 1,066 Bank: 20,808 Total Gil: 21,873 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? I've got it! Bracelets. They'll have Bracelets that can equip in the weapon slot... And they'll flail their hands around when using them. Server: Hades Home Nation: Bastok (Rank 7) Race/Sex: Elvaan/Male Main: 68 RDM/34 WHM Craft: 45 Cloth, 24 Fishing, 17 Wood (Read this at a normal pace...) Tihs Msseage Connat Be Raed By Nromal Huamn Biegns. Pelsae Ntoify Yuor Firedns Taht If Tehy Can Raed Tihs, Taht Tehy Aenr't Namrol...Cnovrresly, Atmpetnig To Raed Tihs Msasege At Nmaorl Pcae And Bineg Albe To, Cna't be Namrol Etiehr...If Yor'ue Albe To Raed Tihs, Tehn Mybae Yur'oe Not Nrmaol. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 12:15 PM | #8 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,902 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,705 Thanked 1,541x in 1,076 Posts Gil: 10,156 Bank: 566,551 Total Gil: 576,707 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? | Quote: | | t wouldn't require new attack animations | yes it would... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 03:59 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,590 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 774 Thanked 334x in 234 Posts Gil: 110,617 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 110,617 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? Whips were always the weapon of choice for dancers, but as we saw in the WotG trailer (and on the website) they clearly use daggers for their primary weapon. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 04:29 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Al'Taieu Posts: 2,678 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 464 Thanked 446x in 311 Posts Gil: 4,812 Bank: 39,409 Total Gil: 44,221 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? While I think a whip would be totally awesome, I don't see them adding that in. Then you have to figure in what other jobs might equip it and all the people rushing to skill up their Whip skill (LOL that just sounds funny!) and I just don't see it happening.
I could see some seriously cool animations with a dancer and a whip, in my mind. But I doubt it will happen.
And I, too, lol'ed at the "wrong kind of dancer" statement. ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~Aksannyi~~Hades~~75WHM~75RDM~62WAR~70BLM~~Mama Gamer~~<3 Cerealkiller~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~  ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 04:51 PM | #11 (permalink) | | ONE WAY Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Confirmed Posts: 2,907 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 86 Thanked 226x in 170 Posts Gil: 28,671 Bank: 12,690 Total Gil: 41,360 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? If you give them a baton you'll have to call them cheerleaders, and they'll want to build pyramids. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 04:57 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Al'Taieu Posts: 2,678 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 464 Thanked 446x in 311 Posts Gil: 4,812 Bank: 39,409 Total Gil: 44,221 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? Cheerleaders use pom-poms, noob. The honor guard flag twirly girls are the ones with batons. ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~Aksannyi~~Hades~~75WHM~75RDM~62WAR~70BLM~~Mama Gamer~~<3 Cerealkiller~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~  ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 08:09 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 196 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5x in 4 Posts Gil: 11,819 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 11,819 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? whips would be great. I would like to avoid daggers, there's enough THFs as it is wielding those. ya a new weapon class would provide something new to skill up and a new style to have fun with.
but I like the Chakram/ranged weapon idea, personally I think bracelets would be cool but instead of hitting with them, their animations involve movements that release damaging close range waves of energy that cut enemies.
I think Dancer should still have decent selection of weapons they can use, especially knuckles if people want an alternate option to an assassin style (dagger), but ya the best addition would be new weapons Dancers can use. whether its whips, some type of large ring, double bladed baton, or tazer. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 08:36 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Oh my! It's Weegee time! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: You tell me! Posts: 169 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 10 Thanked 11x in 7 Posts Gil: 6,445 Bank: 5,457 Total Gil: 11,902 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? Someone's been playing Ragnarok Online. >.>
I would actually like to see chakrams used as close-ranged weaponry. It fits the whole Dancer theme to it... sorta.
I mean, dancing around while slashing with these things would be awesome! (Yes, those belong to Xena.)  SamBakZa.net : amalloc. Watch There She Is. Now. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-29-2007, 09:26 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,000 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 450 Thanked 359x in 221 Posts Gil: 15,576 Bank: 55,506 Total Gil: 71,082 Donate | Re: Introduction of the Whip? I think whips would be too complex for the engine the way it is
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