07-27-2007, 11:24 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 196 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5x in 4 Posts Gil: 11,978 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 11,978 Donate | DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! instead of another fighter or mage class, they should add more unique classic classes.
plus I feel WoG should at least include more than 2 new Jobs (like Zilart) cause I feel the best feature to get an expansion for is new Jobs, which to me are more valuable than new quests and missions at this point. Some might say there are already enough Jobs but I feel there's still a void that needs to be filled with the types of Jobs available, and Dancer is the main job with the greatest potential to feel refreshed and eager to start at level 1 all over again. ^_^
but lets first avoid the stereotypical idea that DCR = BRD
in the best FF games, a Dancer is a mixture of power,status inflictions, and the ability to assault enemies from a distance. plus they don't need MP,
Also since a Dancer channels their power through the motions of their body, they won't require weapons/tools/instruments to unleash their wrath, making them one of the more affordable and inviting Jobs to test and master.
Also with FFXI's beautiful animations, it would be magnificent seeing the different types of dance animations and special effects each ability would display. Hopefully elegant and divine type of motions, and perhaps more unique motions perhaps based on one's race or gender.
Abilities of a Dancer should be stackable (especially the negative status effects, and preferably a Dancer's ability to stick status effects on the enemy should have a superior % of success over any other Job, unless the mob is immune) and their abilities could range from draining MP from the enemy, damaging the enemy over time, reducing enemy's action speed, movement speed, and chant speed.
Decrease enemy's power, magic power,
and perhaps a Dancer's two hour dance ability could inflict multiple status inflictions as well as damaging waves of energy over and over (sort of like hundred fists but slamming the mob with negative status effects and non-elemental waves rapidly)
Ability Traits ideas are sketchy at the moment but the true potential could lie in the subjobs that take advantage of those Traits. ^_^
If done right, Dancers could be the next most popular new Job to explore and they will definitely get along together with Bards and anyone else. I'm just concerned if Dancer if will added to Wings of the Goddess at all, and if they will be given effective and useful abilities that are not overbalanced and nerfed for the sake of "fairness".
Dancers are known mainly for their status inflictions, extra attack range,
no need for ammo or MP, elegant movements, unique clothes, and can't be compared to any fighters, mages or even bards, although they are the only job that is SLIGHTLY similiar but totally different like night and day.
so yeah I feel that the best way to express most of the Dancer Job Class's offensive negative status abilities is to stack each ability with 2 or more negative status effects (like an ability that blinds, silences and poisons).
Or you know what? Maybe the Dancer class should incomporate a customizable set of Dance Abilities, each one allowing you to set 2 or 3 status effects you want that ability to inflict at once. or Dance Combos where you can transition from one dance into another dance and stack the damage and effects that way.
so yes I would love the Dancer job class to be one of the new jobs for Wings of the Goddess (the worst case scenario would be no jobs included in the expansion, but if they learned anything from Zilart and ToAU, is that new quests come and go, but new Jobs are forever.) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-27-2007, 11:33 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 130 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 5 Thanked 20x in 8 Posts Gil: 2,462 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,462 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! So like a bard only more offensive abilities? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 12:19 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Al'Taieu Posts: 2,691 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 465 Thanked 448x in 312 Posts Gil: 6,017 Bank: 41,821 Total Gil: 47,838 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! While I don't like the idea of more jobs to take through the Dunes, I do like the idea of giving us just two more jobs to make it an even 20 jobs, and leaving it at that. I mean really, after that, what else can they give us? ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~Aksannyi~~Hades~~75WHM~75RDM~62WAR~72BLM~~Mama Gamer~~<3 Cerealkiller~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~  ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 12:53 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 130 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 5 Thanked 20x in 8 Posts Gil: 2,462 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,462 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! What more could they give us? People are assuming that they're giving us 3 jobs and are currently arguing over what those 3 jobs should be. There will always be more job possibilities.
Also why dunes? Korroloka tunnel wins. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 06:43 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 150 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5x in 4 Posts Gil: 3,338 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,338 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! More possible ideas
new weapons!
Whip
New job!
SM Queen (or king for males)  -add later- | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 06:49 AM | #6 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,918 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 1,545x in 1,079 Posts Gil: 13,433 Bank: 601,228 Total Gil: 614,661 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! We need two new jobs.
Blades and Mocks.
That way we can have party lists that say BDS MOK | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 07:08 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dumfries, Virgina Posts: 1,935 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 909 Thanked 173x in 135 Posts Gil: 15,647 Bank: 15,173 Total Gil: 30,820 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! Gun Blade Masters >_>;
and... Ark Angel Class | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 07:13 AM | #8 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,918 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,708 Thanked 1,545x in 1,079 Posts Gil: 13,433 Bank: 601,228 Total Gil: 614,661 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! Oh, to be clear, Blades and Mocks would be like DRKs and PLDs, but without magic. Of course. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 07:19 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Vault Dweller Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 492 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 83 Thanked 81x in 49 Posts Gil: 2,853 Bank: 34,905 Total Gil: 37,758 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! I still want Geomancer. That is all. Myaku of Garuda Signature courtesy of Selphiie the Enchantress LS: CoVD / GiggleSnorts Manthra - THF/Crafter 63 THF | 43 WHM | 37 WAR | 37 NIN | 25 SMN | 24 PLD | 20 MNK | 20 BLM | All others 10 San d'Oria Rank 6 (6-1) | RotZ 04 | CoP 4-2 | ToAU 12 | WotG 02 Leathercraft 63+1 | Alchemy 60 | Cooking 60 | Woodworking 60 | Smithing 60 | Goldsmithing 35 | Clothcraft 5 | Fishing 1 | Chocobo Digging: Recruit | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 08:14 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,007 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 101 Thanked 240x in 167 Posts Gil: 13,954 Bank: 126,988 Total Gil: 140,942 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! There already is a new job concept topic Fleshed-out Job Concepts | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 08:33 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,614 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 779 Thanked 335x in 235 Posts Gil: 113,551 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 113,551 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! Dancer has always been the reverse of Bard, and I don't think that should change.
>.> it would be cool if they kept their traditional weapons too (Whips) along with daggers.
As for spells... http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/D...asy_Tactics%29 http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/D...l_Fantasy_V%29 | Quote: | * Tempting Tango - Confuses every enemy. Always works.
* Jitterbug Duet - Drains HP from the enemy.
* Mystery Waltz - Drains MP from the enemy.
* Sword Dance - Attack for four times the damage. | | Quote: | Witch Hunt: Dance causes MP damage with a mysterious costume.
Wiznaibus: Dance causes HP damage with powerful dance steps.
Slow Dance: Dance lowers enemies' Speed level by confusing them
with slow dance movements
Polka Polka: Dance with vivacious moves. Lowers physical attack power.
Disillusion: Dance lowers enemies' magic attack power by distracting
them with a mysterious costume.
Nameless Dance: Dance with unexplainable moves. Causes various
abnormal status.
Last Dance : Ultimate dance. Turns enemies' CT count to 0. | All of those are easily implemented. For Last Dance, they'd just change it to a TP reset, or make it reduce an enemy's TP over time similar to plague but more potent.
As for abilities: | Quote: | A Save: Raise physical attack power.
Brave Up: Raise Brave.
Jump +3: Increase jump elevation by 3.
Fly: Leap over enemies and obstacles. | | Quote: | Flirt:Charm enemies to make them forget about attacking.
Confuses one enemy.
Dance: Perform dances that bewitch enemies. | The tactics abilities (above) are a bit tricky. The only thing I can think of is a passive attack trait. As for Flirt from FFV, that's easy enough. It would be a JA that could act like the killer traits and terrorize the mob, or it could be an enmity reducing ability either for the Dancer or for a target party member. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 09:45 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 196 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5x in 4 Posts Gil: 11,978 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 11,978 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! actually Geomancer could be really cool!!! but that depends on their clothes style and abilities.
But it would be interesting since the terrain and weather could affect what abilities you can use, as well as enhance their effects. and it would be neat if no MP is required to use the terrain as a weapon to channel from to unleash devastating results!
some people voted for Time Mage but that would be too boring a job to me.
Oracle would be interesting but probably not so useful or fun.
I don't see a Mediator job class fitting in this FF's world.
well Dancer is still on the top of my list. ^_^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 11:13 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,614 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 779 Thanked 335x in 235 Posts Gil: 113,551 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 113,551 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! >. > stick to BBQ's thread. Also, BST = Mediator (more or less) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 12:44 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 130 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 5 Thanked 20x in 8 Posts Gil: 2,462 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,462 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! | Quote: | | I don't see a Mediator job class fitting in this FF's world. | | Quote: | | >. > stick to BBQ's thread. Also, BST = Mediator (more or less) | You're all crazy!
I want my mediator ; ;
When I first thought mediator would make a good job I had totally forgot they could charm. I always thought of them as more of a non-mage buffer/debuffer that was good with staves and guns.
Also when you say "Oh my mediators were just charmers in FFT that makes them bsts, let's not put them in." I can say "Oh my thiefs were just charmers in FFT that makes them bsts, let's take them out" Last edited by Richie : 07-28-2007 at 12:49 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-28-2007, 07:00 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 67 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 3,882 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,882 Donate | Re: DANCER would be a most wanted and popular new Job for Wings of the Goddess! I would love to see, a chemist which is desperately needed, and a mystic knight. Mabye also Geomancer which would kinda act like an advanced blackmage which would be cool. Personally if they put in Mystic knight ill be happy lol. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:02 AM. | | |