[Davitron3000]

Originally Posted by Loial

I used my new parade gorget last night at lolHydra. I got the sanction refresh effect so I had 3mp/tick. It worked like a charm. I haven't had the chance to try it anywhere else though. But, so far I like what I see. Is 1mp/tick > 3 enmity or 7 shield skill? That's debateable.
For the time being, I swap it out for an enmity torque when my HP is low or my MP is near full.
/targetnpc
/item "Goblin Drink"
Spam that with no mobs in front of you and it will likely increase your chances. I went 2/3 on the drop with a friend.

I think I would only take 1 mp/tick over +3 enmity or +7 shield skill if I had no one to refresh me. (but that is just me)

I used that macro set up and still got beat everytime, but it is not a big deal. I can wait.

[Loial]

I was PLD/NIN with double march at the time. 3mp/tick myself had its uses. At least as /NIN, shield skill is not as relevant as /WAR.

Like I said, its pretty debateable which is better. It is situational if you need the extra mp or if you need the extra enmity. I'll probably find myself wearing the shield or enmity torque and only using the MP torque if I feel I need some extra regen and hate is under control.

[I'm just a guy]

yea.. another uber camping time, and soon almost everyone will have it and itll go down once i try and camp them >_>:;

[Karinya]

This would have been a lot sexier if it had been discovered before we all got auto-refresh trait and before sanction was introduced. If you already have 2/tick plus whatever MP-support jobs are in your party, another 1/tick doesn't look so hot.

For tanking, that is. Auto-refresh, sanction, parade gorget is 3/tick *without* a refresher, which is enough to make me take another look at the melee/healer concept that was posted here a bit ago. (4 if you have VC, but I don't know if it will be worth it compared to O.hat/turban + AJ/hauby.) I think it was PLD/WHM... you put that in a party with a RDM or BRD and four melees (at least two NIN or /NIN) and murder some helpless VTs. Don't load up on enmity because you want hate to bounce around the /NINs (and spread out damage for Curagas). The idea is *not* to tank, but to provide as much healing as the party needs while still contributing some melee damage.

MP *recovery* is what lets you cast more spells per minute, not MP maximum (although effectiveness per MP also plays a role, which is why you want to use curagas as much as possible). PLD are pretty good at it now, especially in a situation where nobody can rest.


There's also solo, but solo you might as well just wear Hercules Ring and live in orange HP; you get a free 3/tick regen that way too, which is nearly as good as another MP/tick.

[Althrun]

Why not just macro the PG in and out b/w fights? it would make downtime smaller and you could macro your normal equip back in for the fight. I mean, if you're a PLD, odds are during most a fight you're going to be <75% HP anyways (you have to be >75% to trigger), no?