09-25-2006, 05:13 AM | #16 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8x in 8 Posts Gil: 1,387 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,387 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! (supposedly) Originally Posted by Loial | Yes. Initial tests show that 85% or more of your baseHP triggers the latent.
So, 850/1000 = latent on. If you add 200 in hp gear, 850/1200 = latent on as well. | Thanks for that info ^_^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 05:15 AM | #17 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,690 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 189 Thanked 660x in 353 Posts Gil: 37,940 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 37,940 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! (supposedly) | Quote: | Yes. Initial tests show that 85% or more of your baseHP triggers the latent.
So, 850/1000 = latent on. If you add 200 in hp gear, 850/1200 = latent on as well. | Um...that's contradictory >.> If you need more than 85% HP, adding 200 will put you below that. So, do you need more, or less than 85%?
Also, I'm amazed there's nothing in this recipe that's worth hundreds of thousands of gil. It's almost too good to be true. Anyone know if this is a 100% drop?
EDIT: Never mind, got the answer, it's not 100% drop, although the drop rate doesn't seem too bad either. Last edited by Armando : 09-25-2006 at 05:25 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 06:22 AM | #18 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,972 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 455x in 298 Posts Gil: 3,703 Bank: 53,049 Total Gil: 56,752 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! (supposedly) I think the operative word here is "base" HP.
If what Loial is saying is if your normal (naked) max HP is 1000, you need 850 or more HP to get the effect. Adding more HP via gear/food/etc. shouldn't affect the trigger point - even if you add 500 more HP from gear and food, you'll still trigger it above 850 (which is actually rather cool if true).
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 06:30 AM | #19 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,787 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 77 Thanked 192x in 144 Posts Gil: 21,759 Bank: 45,619 Total Gil: 67,377 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! (supposedly) If this was confirmed, a mod should prolly take the '(supposedly)' out of the title >_> | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 06:41 AM | #20 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 464 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 457 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 457 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! (supposedly) I think Icemage clarified it nicely. I'm not sure about food effects. I'd think +HP food would work the same as +HP gear, however I can't confirm this myself atm. I also believe that baseHP *includes* HP merits. I'll see if I can verify that.
And I do agree about being skeptical. Nothing in that recipe list is hard to acquire. I think Wild Onions and newts are the only items that originate from something other than an NPC vendor. Last edited by Loial : 09-25-2006 at 06:47 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 07:41 AM | #21 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,690 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 189 Thanked 660x in 353 Posts Gil: 37,940 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 37,940 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! | Quote: | | I think the operative word here is "base" HP. | Ah, I see, I overlooked that. If it really worked that way, it'd be fantastic... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 07:47 AM | #22 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 5,972 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 455x in 298 Posts Gil: 3,703 Bank: 53,049 Total Gil: 56,752 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! (supposedly) Originally Posted by Ziero | | If this was confirmed, a mod should prolly take the '(supposedly)' out of the title >_> | What an excellent idea. Done!
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 08:23 AM | #23 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,569 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 121 Thanked 275x in 170 Posts Gil: 400 Bank: 41,106 Total Gil: 41,506 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! Question:
How strong is the Regen effect? Sanctuary of Zi'tah! "In this world, the one who has the most fun is the winner!" C.B. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 02:36 PM | #24 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Honolulu Posts: 2,250 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 62 Thanked 34x in 20 Posts Gil: 11,917 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 11,917 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! Originally Posted by Raydeus | Question:
How strong is the Regen effect? | Refresh effect, not regen. It's probably another 1 mp/tick. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 02:51 PM | #25 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,569 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 121 Thanked 275x in 170 Posts Gil: 400 Bank: 41,106 Total Gil: 41,506 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! Originally Posted by Aeni | | Refresh effect, not regen. It's probably another 1 mp/tick. | Ara, that's weird, Mystery says Regen but Somepage says Refresh.
If it's refresh indeed then I guess I'll be getting one soon.  Sanctuary of Zi'tah! "In this world, the one who has the most fun is the winner!" C.B. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 02:54 PM | #26 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 203 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,312 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,312 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! Could anybody test the 2nd recipe given?
1 x La Theine Cabbage
1 x Frost Turnip
1 x Wild Onion
1 x Gysahl Greens
1 x Distilled Water
1 x San d'Orian Carrot 1 x Phanauet Newt
1 x Watermelon
Found here: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Goblin_Drink
Phanauet Newt Info: http://www.finalfishing.com/Fish.aspx - select Phanauet Newt
I get these suckers all the time at the middle landing (Carpenter's Landing) fishing for giant catfish. The last remaining evil white mage on Ramuh. Killing tanks since 2004 Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey
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because they'd never expect it." | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-25-2006, 03:09 PM | #27 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,681 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 48 Thanked 281x in 139 Posts Gil: 31,744 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 31,744 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! Another site has a screenshot showing refresh in the item stats box and people have supposedly tested it at 1/tick refresh.
I have to say, while it's probably good for PLD leveling up and maybe good in merit, it doesn't seem appealing for Dynamis, Limbus or HNM. MP just isn't a major concern in those situations, especially since any spell other than Flash is highly likely to be interrupted while there are any monsters attacking you. I'll stick with harmonia's or shield torque, thanks.
It may be better for DRK, though, since they don't always get refresh even when there's one in the party, they don't have auto-refresh trait, and not everything can be aspired to make up for it.
I'm going to wait until the drink drops back to the 5-10k range and there's nobody competing for the spawn point. Shouldn't be more than a couple weeks, people are just hung up on the newness of it.  Defeated: Maat, Divine Might, Fenrir, Kirin, Cactrot Rapido, Xolotl, Diabolos Prime, Kurrea, 9/10 Dynamis Bosses (missing Tav), Promathia, Proto-Ultima, Proto-Omega, 4 Jailers, Apocalypse Nigh
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Windurst Rank 10, ZMs & PMs Complete, AUMs Complete, First Lieutenant, Steelknight Emblem | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-26-2006, 04:56 AM | #28 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8x in 8 Posts Gil: 1,387 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,387 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! Originally Posted by Karinya | Another site has a screenshot showing refresh in the item stats box and people have supposedly tested it at 1/tick refresh.
I have to say, while it's probably good for PLD leveling up and maybe good in merit, it doesn't seem appealing for Dynamis, Limbus or HNM. MP just isn't a major concern in those situations, especially since any spell other than Flash is highly likely to be interrupted while there are any monsters attacking you. I'll stick with harmonia's or shield torque, thanks.
It may be better for DRK, though, since they don't always get refresh even when there's one in the party, they don't have auto-refresh trait, and not everything can be aspired to make up for it.
I'm going to wait until the drink drops back to the 5-10k range and there's nobody competing for the spawn point. Shouldn't be more than a couple weeks, people are just hung up on the newness of it. | I agree. I can't see myself using this over Shield or Harmonia's Torque. But I still want one  I think I would probably use it on 50 and 60 capped stuff. (not sure)
I tried to get one last night. There were about 10 people at each spawn point. I saw the Wolfman several times, but never actually saw the spawn point because people were 'claiming' so fast. So like you Karinya, I will just wait it out and get one later. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-26-2006, 05:08 AM | #29 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 464 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 457 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 457 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! I used my new parade gorget last night at lolHydra. I got the sanction refresh effect so I had 3mp/tick. It worked like a charm. I haven't had the chance to try it anywhere else though. But, so far I like what I see. Is 1mp/tick > 3 enmity or 7 shield skill? That's debateable.
For the time being, I swap it out for an enmity torque when my HP is low or my MP is near full.
/targetnpc
/item "Goblin Drink"
Spam that with no mobs in front of you and it will likely increase your chances. I went 2/3 on the drop with a friend. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 09-26-2006, 05:23 AM | #30 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 123 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 123 Donate | Re: Goblin Drink Found !!! Here's some results as an fyi:
I fished up 5 newts in about 90 mins at the waterfall before Sea Serpent in Yuhtunga Jungle. My fishing skill is 38. I used a fly lure and a Halcyon Rod.
I made 4 drinks with one failure. My cooking skill is 81. So I think the drink skill cap info above is correct as well. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:03 PM. | | |