10-16-2006, 07:31 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Agawam, MA Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9x in 6 Posts Gil: 6,041 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,041 Donate | Why don't we get this stuff too? http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/jp/p_pic...06/ff11maniax/
A Japanese speaking friend told me there are Japanese books on several aspects of FFXI including Crafting. He told me the books on crafting give indepth info in crafting beyond anything he has seen on any FFXI english website.  Sergeant Major
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Carbuncle | Diabolos | Fenrir | Garuda | Ifrit | Leviathan | Ramuh | Shiva | Titan | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 07:45 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,510 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,348x in 820 Posts Gil: 5,155 Bank: 148,676 Total Gil: 153,830 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? They aren't released here because no one looked into getting an English translation and North American Distribution rights. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 08:17 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 653 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 7 Thanked 28x in 25 Posts Gil: 15,629 Bank: 37,922 Total Gil: 53,550 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? Brady Games Inc i think its called made a huge guide when FFXI RoZ was released. I know Brady Games lost the rights to distribute it a few years back and thats why theres no more of these guides in circulation.
Keeping Purgonorgo Isle clothing optional sine 2004 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 08:21 AM | #4 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 25,832 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 25,832 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? There are tons other FFXI books that never got translated. I don't know why Brady Guide would suddenly translater this one. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 08:29 AM | #5 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,534 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 21 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 40,300 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 40,300 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? brady made 2 products for FFXI (and afaik still is licensed to), a strat guide and an "atlas."
the main reason why a lot of those JP guides never come stateside (or elsewhere) is because there is no market justification for it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 09:06 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Agawam, MA Posts: 386 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9x in 6 Posts Gil: 6,041 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,041 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? The problem is that having such books readily available to the Japanese players puts the NA and EU players at a disadvantage.
That one book has a complete list of items synths, where to obtain the ingredients(shop list, chocobo digging, mining and so on) how to go about crafting the HQ. It has data on probabilities of skills, HQ and such.
It is very indepth, a friend who speaks Japanese has a couple Japanese books and he says they have so much more info than any NA website he has ever found.  Sergeant Major
75PLD | 75NIN | 50RNG | 40BST | 37WAR | 37RDM | 35THF | 26SAM | 22MNK |
22DRG | 22DRK | 22WHM | 20BLM | 11COR | 13BRD | 10BLU | 08PUP | 01SMN |
Carbuncle | Diabolos | Fenrir | Garuda | Ifrit | Leviathan | Ramuh | Shiva | Titan | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 09:41 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,553 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 97 Thanked 275x in 163 Posts Gil: 6,886 Bank: 40,648 Total Gil: 47,533 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? Originally Posted by Rai | The problem is that having such books readily available to the Japanese players puts the NA and EU players at a disadvantage.
That one book has a complete list of items synths, where to obtain the ingredients(shop list, chocobo digging, mining and so on) how to go about crafting the HQ. It has data on probabilities of skills, HQ and such.
It is very indepth, a friend who speaks Japanese has a couple Japanese books and he says they have so much more info than any NA website he has ever found. | You can find complete synthesis lists and sources for obtaining ingredients online at somepage. HQ probabilities based on HQ Tiers is fairly well known, and that information can be gleaned at many FFXI message boards. It might not seem as convenient as having a book to hold in your hands while you play. But it's only a disadvantage to uninformed and/or lazy players.
Finding out that information through online sources has an advantage over using books: your information source can potentially stay up-to-date with changes. Lyonheart
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Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 09:56 AM | #8 (permalink) | | anti-spam Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 5,534 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 21 Thanked 64x in 59 Posts Gil: 40,300 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 40,300 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? Originally Posted by LyonheartLakshmi | | It might not seem as convenient as having a book to hold in your hands while you play. But it's only a disadvantage to uninformed and/or lazy players. | agreed. plus, it not like the entire JP population has an advantage, those who don't have the book are in the same boat as the rest of us. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 03:51 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 15 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 941 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 941 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? They look really cool, I would like to have them just to collect them. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 05:09 PM | #10 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 25,832 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 25,832 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? ISBN 4-7577-2989-8
I think I'll go to kinokuniya and order it. Maybe I'll hire some JP friends to translate it. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 10-16-2006, 05:52 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 73 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 994 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 994 Donate | Re: Why don't we get this stuff too? Unless the book also states explicitly that by "doing this and this and this, etc. you're guaranteed a HQ on a tier 11 craft", all the information can already be found in the various forums. Eruantalon over at Allakhazam's did a lot of research into the HQ tiers before he left the game over half a year ago after saying that he broke the HQ code and have reached his "endgame". (Pretty credible in my own opinion).
Granted, the information are scattered all over the place, so the book does provide convenience, nice pictures and ease of use.
Besides, nothing beats the advantage of cheap mass production and full time market watch. I don't see the RMT crafters that makes shihei/bolts 24/7, with another character watching the AH 24/7, even needing this kind of book to have overwhelming competitive advantage. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:45 PM. | | |