How day of week effect the synthesizing?

[Painkiller]

I think it has some effect of synthesizing skill up depend on day of week.
Some day my skill go up 0.1, 0.2 oftenly but some day my skill didn't go up anymore even 7 success in a row.
I also noticed the same on precentage of HQ too.

If anyone has information about it will greatly appreciated!

PS: My blacksmith skill is 56.4 so, I know what I have to synthesize to skill up and I know the limit of skill of each product too...

[Jei]

wow 56 o_O my cooking is 27 now im bored to up it anymore.

i don't know how days affect skill upping. Do you think it affects weapon skill too?

[Painkiller]

‚g‚p‚Ì—j“ú?EŒŽ—îˆË‘¶?«
—j“ú?@?@‚·‚ׂĖžŒŽ‚É‚Sƒ_?[ƒX‚ð?í‚é?B
ŒŽ—î?@?@‚·‚ׂĕ——j“ú‚É‚Sƒ_?[ƒX‚ð?í‚é?B
‚ÅŒŸ?Ø?B

—j“úˆË‘¶?«
?@?@‘O—j“ú?F26%
?@?@“¯—j“ú?F10%
?@?@ŽŸ‚Ì“ú?F9%
?@?@”½‘®?«?F18%
?@?@‘¼‚Ì“ú?F‚¾‚¢‚½‚¢‚Ç‚Ì—j“ú‚à•½‹Ï“I‚Å9%
Œ‹˜_?E—j“ú‚Ì—¬‚ê‚ð‚Ý‚Ä?AŽg—p‚·‚éŒI‚Ì‘O“ú‚Ì—j“ú‚ª‚¢ ‚¢?B

ŒŽ—îˆË‘¶?«
?@?@–žŒŽ?F12%
?@?@?VŒŽ?F11%
?@?@?VŒŽ‘O(“ñ?\˜Z–é)?F15%
?@?@?VŒŽŒã(ŽO“úŒŽ)?F17%
?@?@‚»‚Ì‘¼(•½‹Ï“I)?F4.5%
Œ‹˜_?EŠm‚©‚É–žŒŽ‚Í‚¢‚¢‚¯‚Ç?AŽÀ‚Í?VŒŽ‘OŒã‚ªƒxƒXƒg‚ç ‚µ‚¢...

I found this on Goldsmith message board but not understand
Please translate... m(__)m


PS: My cooking skill is blue text, 70^^ but it will hurt if my Blacksmith skill over 60. it's ˆó‰Â system.

Metal Carving

[dbeeo]

I have something similar with this before, however, I could not be confirm.

—j“úˆË‘¶?«
?@?@‘O—j“ú?F26%
?@?@“¯—j“ú?F10%
?@?@ŽŸ‚Ì“ú?F9%
?@?@”½‘®?«?F18%
?@?@‘¼‚Ì“ú?F‚¾‚¢‚½‚¢‚Ç‚Ì—j“ú‚à•½‹Ï“I‚Å9%
Œ‹˜_?E—j“ú‚Ì—¬‚ê‚ð‚Ý‚Ä?AŽg—p‚·‚éŒI‚Ì‘O“ú‚Ì—j“ú‚ª‚¢ ‚¢?B

before a day: 26%
same attribude day: 10%
next day: 9%
opposite : 18%
other day: average 9% (??? not sure)

conclusion: the day before is the best.

i think the percentange mean the rate of success

due to my worst english.... it means that if you use water crystal, do the skill before the day of water (should be “úŒŽ‰Î?…–Ø‹à“y, correct me if mistake, it should be got some wrong), so, do the skill by using water crystal on "fire" day(tuesday, in game :p) will get a high chance to success, 26%.

for the relationship about moon.... i dont know :sweat:

[Siusum]

Interesting...didn't know that...
Thanks for sharing ^^

[Eriwilde]

Here's the result of my research on the relationship between the attribute of the day of the week and synthesizing, and the relationship between moon ages and synthesizing.

BASIC THEORY:

In general, the following is popular belief.

On the day of Light (?uΛ?v), we are more likely to succeed in synthesizing.

On the day of Darkness (?uˆÅ?v), we are more likely to fail in synthesizing.

If you use a cystal with an attribute which is the same with the attribute of the day of the week that day, you are more likely to succeed in synthesizing.

If you use a cystal with an attribute which is strong to the attribute of the day of the week that day, you are more likely to succeed in synthesizing.

* Strong Attribute (more likely to succeed):
Crystal ?@?¨?@Attribute of Day
‰Š?@?¨?@•X
•X?@?¨?@•—
•—?@?¨?@“y
“y?@?¨?@—‹
—‹?@?¨?@?…
?…?@?¨?@ˆÅ
ˆÅ?@?¨?@Œõ (Unclear)
Œõ?@?¨?@ˆÅ (Unclear)

If you use a cystal with an attribute which is weak to the attribute of the day of the week that day, you are more likely to fail in synthesizing.

* Weak Attribute (more likely to fail):
Crystal ?@?¨?@Attribute of Day
‰Š?@?¨?@?…
•X?@?¨?@‰Š
•—?@?¨?@•X
“y?@?¨?@•—
—‹?@?¨?@“y
?…?@?¨?@—‹
ˆÅ?@?¨?@Œõ (Unclear)
Œõ?@?¨?@ˆÅ (Unclear)

On the day of Full Moon (?u–žŒŽ?v), you are more likely to succeed in synthesizing HQ (High Quality) items.


ADVANCED THEORY:

If you synthesize on the previous day of the attribute of the crystal you use, you are more likely to succeed in synthesizing HQ items.

For example, if you want to synthesize HQ items with a Fire Crystal (?u‰Š‚̃NƒŠƒXƒ^ƒ‹?v), you had better do it on the day of Darkness (?uˆÅ?v).

On the previous day (?u“ñ?\˜Z–é?v) or the following day (?uŽO“úŒŽ?v) of the New Moon (?u?VŒŽ?v), you are more likely to succeed in synthesizing HQ items.

The lunar age varies every 7 day:
–žŒŽ?@?¨?@?\˜Z–é?@?¨?@‹?‘ÒŒŽ?@?¨?@‰ºŒ·‚ÌŒŽ?@?¨?@
“ñ?\“ú—]ŒŽ?@?¨?@“ñ?\˜Z–é?@?¨?@?VŒŽ?@?¨?@ŽO“úŒŽ?@?¨?@
Žµ“úŒŽ?@?¨?@?㌷‚ÌŒŽ?@?¨?@?\“ú–é?@?¨?@?\ŽO–é?¨?@–ž ŒŽ?@

Lunar Age Calender:
http://www3.big.or.jp/~wanpaku/FFXI/vtime.cgi

REFERENCES:

—j“ú‚Ì?‡”Ô (order of the days of a week)
[‰Î]?¨[“y]?¨[?…]?¨[•—]?¨[•X]?¨[—‹]?¨[Œõ]?¨[ˆÅ]

Relationship of Each Attribute:

?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@‰Š
?@?@?@?@?ª?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?«

?…?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@•X
?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@Λ

?ª?@?@?@?@?@?ª?@?@?@?@?«?@?@?@?@?@?«

?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@ˆÅ
—‹?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@•—

?@?@?@?@?ª?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?«

?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@?@“y

[Awntawn]

I've also heard that on light days, cure heals more, and it heals less on darkness days

Heh my guild skills are like... 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-...................
It seems almost impossible... Considering the rates and how they've been going up (or rather, NOT going up) at such a low level as zero... HOW much time/money does it take to get it to a point where you actually profit from it?

[Painkiller]

Thank you very much Eriwilde!
Now my skill is 58 and get the ˆó‰Â of blacksmith already^^


Awntawn: Blacksmith skill 51-53 can make an easy profit by synthesize the Iron Plate (ƒAƒCƒAƒ“”Â) from Wind Crystal (•—) and Quadav Back Shell or Helm (ƒNƒDƒ_ƒt‚Ì”w?b or ƒNƒDƒ_ƒtƒwƒ‹ƒ€)...
1 dozen of Iron Plate: 24,000g
-
1 dozen of Quadav Back Shell: 16800g (12 x 1400g)
+
1 dozen of Wind Crystal: 1000g
=
6200g profit!!!

[tongyang]

I believe this program uses your system internal clock as the time. So unless you live in Japan (or set your system clock to Japan time), they may not be accurate

[tongyang]

Hey, that's a nice find I admit I didn't look at that program very much And it ruined some of my macros when I tried entering them directly...

[[3viL]3D]

On the picture starvingartist posted, for banana. You can put in your timezone different in lower right corner... Where EST to JSP is supposed to be 14... But somehow that will crash my config file... But Evilkitty got it working flawlessly... For me to get it working, I change my clock to JP time, then at the left lower corner, use ‚µ‚È‚¢?B?@That is not to reset the time with internet time. Nonetheless I find that program awesome to use when doing synthesizing...

I used to believe the strong effect is the strongest, so I have to doing a lot of alchemy (use water crystals) on Thunder day, but next time I will try to do it on Earth day... My alchemy is lv29... Still alot to go.

[[3viL]3D]

Originally posted by Eriwilde



* Strong Attribute (more likely to succeed):
Crystal ?@?¨?@Attribute of Day
‰Š?@?¨?@•X
•X?@?¨?@•—
•—?@?¨?@“y
“y?@?¨?@—‹
—‹?@?¨?@?…
?…?@?¨?@ˆÅ
ˆÅ?@?¨?@Œõ (Unclear)
Œõ?@?¨?@ˆÅ (Unclear)

If you use a cystal with an attribute which is weak to the attribute of the day of the week that day, you are more likely to fail in synthesizing.

* Weak Attribute (more likely to fail):
Crystal ?@?¨?@Attribute of Day
‰Š?@?¨?@?…
•X?@?¨?@‰Š
•—?@?¨?@•X
“y?@?¨?@•—
—‹?@?¨?@“y
?…?@?¨?@—‹
ˆÅ?@?¨?@Œõ (Unclear)
Œõ?@?¨?@ˆÅ (Unclear)

I just want to post my view for ”½‘®?«... To my understanding, and also match with banana, ”½‘®?« is the weakest of the element, but not what it is strong against.

[•—]?¨[“y]?¨[—‹]?¨[?…]?¨[‰Î]?¨[•X]?¨[•—]

When synthesizing with Fire crystal, the day of ”½‘®?« I believe is water. Just like according to the pic StarvingArtist posted, that "today" is [“y], and "”½‘®?«" is [•—]. This matches my theory of ”½‘®?« is what the crystal weakness against. I have been doing water [?…] synthesizing on thunder day [—‹] with alot of success...

At the opposite side, Evilkitty has been doing all his fire goldsmith on the day of Ice with success... Guess I should leave it alone, and do everything on the before, and hope it is a new moon...

My 2 gil of experience so far... Feel free to correct me.. >.<

[[3viL]3D]

It doesn't allow me to input any - +, even inputting a 0 give me that run-time error 13... Type mismatch...

I have played around with the banana.ini with the JST-= value with no luck... I have posted on the author msg board about this, hopefully I will get some reply tmw.

[celerius]

So...If it were –žŒŽ, does it matter if we synthesis in the day or must it be night where you can see the full moon? Also how long does a full moon last?

[Eriwilde]

Originally posted by celerius
So...If it were –žŒŽ, does it matter if we synthesis in the day or must it be night where you can see the full moon? Also how long does a full moon last?

It doesn't matter if it is day or night.
A full moon last 7 days.