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Old 05-17-2005, 08:30 AM   #1
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HQ Chance

just wondering..
HQ chance is increased on full moon + darksday?
or fullmoon + lightsday?
or new moon + light/dark day

x_x i've heard so many different things....
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Actually, its new moon + day that your crystal is weak to. Example to HQ bolts using earth crystals, craft on windsday. Dark day is next best I believe. Someone in my LS says New moon + lightday, but I think he's mistaken.
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really..

i always thought it was fullmoon >_<
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i personally believe that either moon is good for hq. as far as day: craft on day your crystal is weak to (as g-man said if earth synth craft on windsday) OR light or darksday depending on crystal. each crystal, along with it's own element is either light or dark based (think level 3 skillchains). earth, ice, water, dark = dark based; fire, wind, lightning, light = light based. so for example lightsday would be good for earth hq since it's darkness based, and darksday would be good for wind hq since wind is a light based element.

i have on multiple occasions hq'd 4/12 lvl 94 earth synths on 100% fullmoon lightsday, so i know it's not just new moon. just my thoughts though.
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4/12 prism capes? X_X 28M right there on midguard ww
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4/12 prism capes? X_X 28M right there on midguard ww
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wow. . . I'm like 0/4829847928759734 on slops lol
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wow. . . I'm like 0/4829847928759734 on slops lol
sounds like my record on prism capes lol...managed to make 1 ever =.=
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i'm 100+3 leathercraft on bismarck. personally i think it's all random luck. but if you must base your synth on something, just synth on the day opposite of your crystal. i havent noticed any increase in hq on darks/new moon. all the same....
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I'm currently a 95 goldsmith and have heard every different possible combination as to what yields the best HQ rate.

The most common I hear is day crystal is weak to (earth on windday) and new moon. To me this is the best day to skill up and I usually get 1/3 rate on skill ups. However, I haven't gotten ONE HQ during my entire career on skill up recipes. I know the chances of getting HQs when you're less than 11 above the cap (or even under the cap) are extremely low, but I think I would expect something after how far I've come in this guild.

I know it's probably wrong, but shouldn't HQ and skill up be at opposite spectrums? Being able to aim for HQ and best skill up at the same time seems a bit unfair, so to me it would seem the best day would be same day, and best moon phase would be full moon. This would prevent people from being able to aim for 2 things at the same time, and it makes more sense.

To this day I have no clue, just throwing this out there. I do know that the weak day/new moon is great for skill up, but then again that is just for me. Maybe it's different for other people. Any input would be great.
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I'm currently a 95 goldsmith and have heard every different possible combination as to what yields the best HQ rate.

The most common I hear is day crystal is weak to (earth on windday) and new moon. To me this is the best day to skill up and I usually get 1/3 rate on skill ups. However, I haven't gotten ONE HQ during my entire career on skill up recipes. I know the chances of getting HQs when you're less than 11 above the cap (or even under the cap) are extremely low, but I think I would expect something after how far I've come in this guild.

I know it's probably wrong, but shouldn't HQ and skill up be at opposite spectrums? Being able to aim for HQ and best skill up at the same time seems a bit unfair, so to me it would seem the best day would be same day, and best moon phase would be full moon. This would prevent people from being able to aim for 2 things at the same time, and it makes more sense.

To this day I have no clue, just throwing this out there. I do know that the weak day/new moon is great for skill up, but then again that is just for me. Maybe it's different for other people. Any input would be great.
I'm gonna have to go with Xuande on this one in that having full moon to me seems the same as increasing your skill level which would lead to a better chance of HQ. Also, crafting on your crystal's day would also have the same effect of increasing your skill level during the craft, also resulting in an increased chance of HQ.
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my ls member did a test on rabbit broths back when that was profitable (10k+ synths logged); I did tests on black ink when I was in Seaserpent all day (~2k synths logged till i got bored).

LS member's conclusion: day of the week / moon phase / etc has nothing to do with success rate.

My conclusion: ditto.

Same goes for skillups, I'd say. I did get like 6 skillups out of 8 synths when I did the last stretch of woodwork on fullmoon, however I've done equally unimpressive stretches of 15+ synths w/o a single skillup on the same conditions.

Just my ramblings, anyway. Believe what you want to believe; it's not me that's getting bummed out of cash when all the fools raise prices on synth items during full moon.
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I have to agree that moon phase is a bit far-fetched for the crafts (Excluding Fishing). The idea of crystal's strong day + moon phase I see is wrong because there are 2 crystals in which completly skip over a new moon phase and there are 2 crystals in which completly skip over full moon phase.

Besides that there are only 2 cyrstals that will ever get 100% Full Moon and only 2 crystals that will ever get 100% New Moon. It's to unbalanced for moon phase to truely make any significance to crafting. However I do feel the moon has some sort of significance and possibly it's effect is only durring 20:00 to 4:00 when the moon is actually out.

Anyway with my tries doing Sairui-Ran, Ethers, and Hi-Ethers I never found moon phase to make any real difference. Though I have had significant differences occur with day vs. night as well as what day it is.

Still trying with the idea of direction but there is a discrepency I found with Fire and Light, according to the stellar map in windurst the Fire star is located NorthEast and the Light is NorthWest. The problem is when you look at the night sky you can clearly see Fire is showing up to the NorthWest and Light is NorthEast, so which of the two is correct I'm not sure. Other then that change though all the other stars match the stellar map.

The other thing I intended to try is testing more with the moon itself, not it's phase but what element it is. I'm just not sure of the Moon's element during it's transition from Lightningsday to Lightsday, as well as Lightsday to Darksday.

I do know the follow moon elements though:

Dark->Fire = Light Moon
Fire -> Earth = Earth Moon
Earth -> Water = Water Moon
Water -> Wind = Wind Moon
Wind -> Ice = Ice Moon
Ice -> Lightning = Lightning Moon
Lightning -> Light = Fire Moon (????)
Light -> Dark = Dark Moon (????)

If that is correct then that seems even more intresting, not only is the constellations of Fire and Light switched around but so is their Moon Elements?
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Always get more HQs on fullmoon/newmoon + dark day. Fed. tekko make good money for CPs.
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A high lv. JP on my server has the Prism Cape History covered up with her name....what I want to know is how she can HQ so many, its amazing. (maybe 1 sold almost each day)Not to mention she makes demon cloaks and royal cloaks... O.o
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