[Mezlo]

I had read on previous posts that it's good for COR to swap to the appropriate staff when using QD. It sounded good to me until I thought about losing TP. Do you only swap your staff and use QD after unloading a slug shot? Is it necessary to swap to the light staff at early levels regardless of losing tp in order to sleep mobs with light shot?

[LilithAngel]

If your only focus is on QD, then yeah, it's advisable, or at the very least, preferred. However, when in an EXP party situation, your overall setup should not involve rotating staves just for QD. If you're going to be using a staff while gaining TP, more than likely it'll be Fire/Vulcan's Staff or Wind/Auster's Staff for both sooting and WS.

Quick Draw is a secondary (tertiary even) function of Corsair in most cases. Swap staves when you're only focused on QD, otherwise, keep the TP and don't bother with it.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

If you're going /mage and not melee/shooting all that much, then yes, going for stave swaps is advisable since QD will be your main form of damage.

If you're shooting for TP, that means you're probably not a Joyeuse COR (yet) or pre-70, staff swapping would murder your TP gain, so staff swapping is not advisable.

If you want to use a Fire Staff as /RNG, you may wish to favor Fire Shot accordingly. But since Fire Shot isn't useful for much aside from damage, consider enfeebles placed on the mob first and fire the proper QD in reponse. The damage your QD does is secondary to the effect of enhancing debuffs. QD's secondary effects always activate on the matching enfeebles, even if QD's damage is resisted.

Personally, for things like Light and Dark Shot I've never found staves necessary in EXP. Could be in my case that mithra just has insane AGI to start with before my AGI set. But if you're on /mage duty, no harm in putting light/Dark staves with the matching QD to help their accuracy.

[Karinya]

The only time I found a noticeable Light Shot resist (on mobs that weren't like light elementals or something) was in a manaburn that was fighting *really* high level mobs relative to us (like 250 exp before chain/rings/COR roll). The BLMs had trouble sleeping them too, unless they used ES.

Other than that, though, LS is pretty reliable and as kitten said, the enfeeble-enhancing effect of QD doesn't depend on whether the damage is resisted. So enhancing QD isn't really that big a deal, compared to the physical damage you can do with your gun - which is a lot better if you keep your TP.

I have yet to see a situation where I would consider using *one* staff on COR, let alone swapping between them. At least one COR75 I have met claims that TPing with sword is better than TPing with gun even before Joyeuse; I haven't run the numbers but it seems about the same to me, except for the ammo and the frequent "cannot see the X" messages and the inability to move. Ranged attacks with a given amount of skill and +racc seem to noticeably underperform melee attacks with the same skill and +acc. (Except when Sharpshot is up, then I usually try to shoot more.)

And that's with /RNG and the /RNG gear like gun belt and beater's earring - if you're using something like /DNC (which I really recommend for parties without a DNC for the pre-slugshot levels at least, and maybe after depending on party needs) you should definitely melee and resetting your tp is terrible.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

At least one COR75 I have met claims that TPing with sword is better than TPing with gun even before Joyeuse; I haven't run the numbers but it seems about the same to me, except for the ammo and the frequent "cannot see the X" messages and the inability to move.

If someone's hasting him and he has a good sword and melee set, it might be possible to TP better with Sword than gun, but show me the RDM or WHMs that actually think to Haste the COR. I about dropped to the floor in shock when a RDM hasted me the other week. its rare and I've grown tired of asking.

But really, CORs would likely get better damage over time and TP returns from shooting pre-70. A COR might say "TP with bullets," but we mean DD with them. We switch up to meleeing with a Joyeuse because there's a point where shooting is no longer practical if we want to keep up with the other DDs most fights. You might get 2-3 swings in with the sword in the time it takes to shoot, but the damage from the shot will be better. The TP may be comparable or close to the shot, though.

Really, though, i think he's just trying to be cheap on bullets

[LilithAngel]

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten

show me the RDM or WHMs that actually think to Haste the COR.

You've never seen Kujatan RDMs and WHMs then. They seem to do nothing but Haste CORs and RNGs, even when we tell them it has no effect. They also are quick with the Erase when they see Slow dropped on said jobs.

Go figure.

[Callisto]

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