[Hyver]

So I'm planning on starting my first character soon (once I can get a buddy pass, or my motorcycle fixed, whichever comes first). Anyway, I want to play a corsair, but I have to level up something to 30 first and I don't know what would be best. In a prior life I offtanked and DPS'd for one of the top 2 raiding guilds on my server in world of warcraft, and I also have a good deal of experience as a healer. I don't want to get stuck with 30 levels in a job that won't make a decent subjob for leveling COR (and it's looking like I'll be wanting /RNG once I start getting up there too) In you're experiences, what would be the best rout to take to 30?

[Murphie]

Well, you have to consider subjobs.

One idea:

BLM to 18 > Get SubJob > WHM to 30 > Unlock COR

But you'll still need your main COR subjobs, which are also extra jobs (NIN and RNG).

So you may want to do:

MNK to 18 > Get SubJob > WAR to 30 > Unlock COR, RNG, NIN > NIN and RNG to 37 > Level COR.

Regardless, it's not going to be a straight shot. You'll find yourself leveling a lot of the various side-jobs as you go.

[Mog]

Another thing... Corsair is one of the most expensive jobs to level. Make sure you have a decent gil base before you decide to level it.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

If your goal is COR, I'd take this path.

MNK to 18 > WAR 37.

WHM isn't a bad choice to 37, either, but it adds a subjob you'll rarely ever get much use out of after 30 for COR, save for some endgame scenarios, which you're a long ways off from anyway. Take levelling WHM at your leisure and definately finish it as a sub, but I wouldn't use it as a primary subjob.

When you hit WAR 30, unlock the follwing jobs:

Ninja, Ranger, Dancer, Scholar, Blue Mage.

I would polish off NIN as the first sub, since both NIN and WAR supplement RNG very well, you many even like RNG so much you wish to take it further, so these are good subs to have for RNG as well. I also recommend RNG to 40 because it gives you a welcome spot in some money making BCNM fights like "The Worms Turn," which will also help you get the NIN scroll Utusemi: Ni for your NIN sub.

Benefit of each subjob:

• Ranger - Highest possible accuracy with two Accuracy Bonus traits and you can gain on COR and best overall damage potential.
• Dancer - Adds healing, status cure and enfeebling potential through the use of your TP and you can still use melee gear whereas a mage subjob would force MP gear on your Corsair. You can gain one accuracy bonus trait under this subjob, putting it at a close second to Ranger
• Ninja - Helpful with pulling and nullifying damage in various situations. Decent accuracy potential via Dual Wielding +Accuracy daggers, but it doesn't come close to subbing Ranger.
• White Mage - best potential for healing, Status cures, Raise and Reraise can be helpful. However, it forces mage gear on you, which conflicts with CORs ranged accuracy, attack and AGI needs.
• Red Mage - Offers RDM the cures of WHM, Dispel and Magic Attack Bonus, which enhances the damage of your Quick Draws.
• Blue Mage - Offers decent curative ability, protective self-magic and also offers the Magic Attack Bonus Trait. Set Spells allow you to also gain other job traits and stat bonuses.
• Scholar - Offers most of the curative abilities of WHM and DNC via Addendum: White. Dark Arts, Drain and Aspir help with personal HP and MP restoration. Sublimation at 70+ give COR an extra means of getting MP back on top of Aspir and Evoker's Roll.
• Black Mage - Offers highest Magic Attack Bonus Trait under subjob for the biggest boost to Quick Draw, but that's about all it offers. RDM or BLU would often be better for thier curative options.
• Bard - COR is seen as a party buffer, BRD helps enhance this function in some situations, though COR's buffs are often good enough to stand on thier own. March and Ballad buffs are also a fair addtion to COR's list of existing buffs.
• Warrior - Basically an epeen subjob for merit parties at high level. Best possible damage potential, but at the expense of accuracy you could gain from using Ranger, Dancer or Ninja subjobs.

Corsair is a rather versatile job, but generally seen as a party buffer. My personal opinion is that CORs should focus on their damage potential pre-endgame levels and weigh it out evenly with thier buffing responsibilities. Pre-30, the /WHM route is perfectly fine, but the higher you get, it only presents mixed priorities in gear. /WHM is also commonly used in endgame, which I have no issues with. But at EXP levels, its value is marginal at best, better to help bring the damage or cure with a Dancer subjob at 30+ than go with any /mage sub.

Finally, since you'e seen the pretty daunting list I've laid out for COR's subjob options, I'd encourage you to just take all the jobs out there for a spin before you settle on COR. You may find there's another job out there that you like better than what you set out for.

I set out to be a Red Mage and a Dragoon on my original character, I even got Bard all the way to 75, but ended up not being satisfied as any of the jobs. I ended up enjoying Corsair, Ranger, Dancer, Scholar and Beastmaster quite a bit more.

Give all the jobs a spin before settling on one, you may be surprised that you've ended up on a different path than the one you initially set out one. Some jobs can get as involved with subjobs as COR, if not moreso, while others have a more limited spectrum of subjobs they benefit from. Paladin would be a job that really only makes use of three different subjobs - Warrior, Dancer and Ninja. Summoner really only uses White Mage and Scholar, though that's not to say the path of a summoner is any less trying, they have to obtain the Avatars for summoning, after all, and that can be daunting as well.

[Hyver]

Thanks for the advice guys. That's deffinately a daunting list kitten! Coming from WoW it's certainly different to have to think about leveling up secondary jobs and so I really didn't (and still don't truely) know the extent to which I'm going to spend my time leapfrogging up my levels. I suspect I'll probably follow your guide there kitten, as melee DPS and tanking was my bread and butter back in the day in WoW, it'll give me a chance to get used to the hate system and party dynamics in general in a way that I'm more accustomed too.

Thanks for all the advice guys :-)

[Demon Raik]

cool i ay even try that

[ShepardG]

It may sound assnine, and tedious, but I'd recommend taking the starting six jobs to 30. Honestly, playing 3-4hrs a day, 3-5 days a week, using ffxionline comunity, wiki, and dedication. I think you could get your nation rank to 5, get all starting jobs to 30, get your subjob, get your choco liscense, get your tele-crystals, airship pass, whitegate pass, and get your top 3 advanced jobs unlocked, all within a month with those parameters.

You'd probably have to get some help from a high level or 2, but if someone on here could dedicate 1-2 sessions a week, I bet it could be done. If you were on phoenix and I wasn't in fucking afghanistan, I'd attempt to get you all those jobs to 30 and all those quest's/items/chore's done in that time.

any takers?

[Armando]

What's the point in leveling the 6 started jobs to 30? COR already has plenty of sub jobs that should be taken to 37; if you're gonna level things for the sake of leveling them, might as well be subs you'll actually use.

[Karinya]

In particular, thf would only see use when farming (maybe), and mnk is only useful for a few jobs in a few situations (if you're not using it as a main).

I think kitten's list might be a little excessive - you can probably get to 75 no problem with just /rng, /dnc and /nin; the others are used only in very specialized situations if at all, and can be leveled after you reach COR75 if you prefer. (You'll want war to 18 to level nin to 37, though.) People (including me) used to advise leveling either whm or rdm to have sneak and invis, but dnc and nin now both have complete stealth too.

A few years ago, I would have said to do whm first, because it's the most likely to be invited to a party even when you have no SJ; but with the commonness of PLs these days, I'm not sure that's still true. In any case, you could FoV solo to 18 (although getting the subjob items might be a challenge).

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

There are crazies out there that advocate THF on the FFXIclopedia COR forums... cuz CORs get knives.

Not really a good basis for that logic, given the knives we want to use don't change much after we get them. Archer's Knives and Trailer's Kukri aren't really for DD at all, they're for ranged accuracy.

What I listed in this post, last year apparently, wasn't all must-have. I was just pointing out the benefits of each practical sub for COR. I personally think BLM and BRD are totally frivelous, even for their situational uses. As nice as a secondary dispel from RDM may be, the second QD charge gained pre-WotG kinda made it a moot point.

DNC even came in and obsoleted WHM to a degree, There's really no good reason for me to /WHM in a city dynamis or non-boss/non-manaburned Limbus. I'd even prefer /DNC for things like JoL given how often I get stuck in RNG PTs for that. I don't want to waste time on /WHM and Evoker's Roll when we're mostly out of harm's way and people in my group seldom need cures. /DNC lets me cure without creating gear conflicts.

/RNG, /WHM, /DNC and /NIN are what I consider the most practical and widely useful subjobs. Its just a damn shame too many people overuse /WHM and /NIN where they aren't really useful at all.

[pixiehawk]

Originally Posted by Armando

What's the point in leveling the 6 started jobs to 30? COR already has plenty of sub jobs that should be taken to 37; if you're gonna level things for the sake of leveling them, might as well be subs you'll actually use.

Extra farming for one

More important? A chance to make sure the job is the one you want. You might only need to take them all to 10 or 15 for that though. One of my friends ingame wanted to be a DRG when he started the game he made his name with dragoon in it... then after playing DRG and a couple different jobs realized he hated it. He ended up being a great PLD instead. I wanted to be a SMN when I started out... my mains are RDM and DRG. Just because you have an idea when you start doesn't mean you'll stick with it. The OP might decide magery is the way he should go.

[Armando]

Then let him get to COR, find out he doesn't like it, and switch to something else.

It seems silly to tell him "try out these 6 jobs just in case you don't like COR," because he might actually like it. Saying "Try COR, if you don't like it then try other jobs" doesn't have the potential of wasting his time.

[Elwynn]

Originally Posted by pixiehawk

One of my friends ingame wanted to be a DRG when he started the game he made his name with dragoon in it... then after playing DRG and a couple different jobs realized he hated it.

There's someone on Fairy named Redmageforlife. I usually see him as WHM/BLM or BLM/WHM or some mage combination without RDM. Lawl. I think I've seen him as RDM once.

[Ameroth]

Many new players make the mistake of deciding what jobs they will play and how they will play them before ever booting the game up. In FFXI, you may find a certain job to be more tailored towards your MMO playstyle than you originally thought.

I wont go so far as to tell a new player to blindly level all 6 starter jobs to 30, but I would recommend at least trying a few out. Try MNK or WAR, and then give WHM, BLM, or RDM a go. There's 20 different jobs to choose from; don't limit yourself to just one before you've ever experience other classes.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Yeah, I would never recommend having your heart set on one job from the start. Tried that with RDM, ended up rather disappointed. Thought DRG and BRD were for me, but turned out other jobs appealed to me more in the long run.

I like being a ranged attacker, party buffer and charming things. RNG, COR, SCH and BST cover that spread rather nicely.