New to COR, a few questions

[Tenkia]

Thanks, and Osnap, 18-30 hours and a chance that it doesnt even pop?! Thats crazy, I would be better off buying 60k stonaga II and bcnm it.

[wrongfeifong]

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Originally Posted by wrongfeifong
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Your problem isn't that you refuse to get "the best" gear, its that you don't even try for adequate, affordable gear. You can get Deadeye Gloves from ISNM, a simple 2k in Imperial Standing is all you need for those. Peacock Charm is from BCNM40 Under Observation or you can still camp Argus for the R/E version.

A reasonable person will take time away from levelling thier job to prepare for the road ahead, they may or may not get this stuff, but the fact that they keep trying says that they care how they play.

I seriously have no idea what give you an idea, that i am naked I am pretty well geared and i do have everything best for corsair (beside spects). But personnally after acquire these "best" items, i don't feel it helps. (just FYI, i never did brother get QD equipment because i don't feel it worth it as i am in the leveling part)

And like i said BBQ, as a level 60+ i farm so much easier then as a level 20 that trying to farm bullets. Hence it took me 1-2 days to farm what it is worth of a level 20 in a week. Hence, my "post-production" style works better then you expected.

Consider the fact using these i hit 90% of the shots with squid during /brd /whm (meaning /rng would tell me that 25 racc+acc trait is useless.) I don't think i even need all these gear to begin with.

just for the record FYI, I do have everything what a 68 should and BEST to have (i even have hexagun (brought @ 100k seriously overpriced too), trailer, gun belt, scop+1 x2 ring, drone +1 x2, spect..etc, all AF, only thing i don't have +1 pants (god sake 500k for each...). Since it take me 1 day to farm 200k (i have my ways as a 60+).

About deadeye gloves, how you expect me to get a group that does it? consider corsair aren't BCNM/ISNM welcome (even i know cor is good for them but people want rdm/brd), i have tried few time, no one ever want to even do it with me

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

I seriously have no idea what give you an idea, that i am naked I am pretty well geared and i do have everything best for corsair (beside spects). But personnally after acquire these "best" items, i don't feel it helps. (just FYI, i never did brother get QD equipment because i don't feel it worth it as i am in the leveling part)

Go back and read your guide for cheaping your way to 75.

You could just get some weak armor anyway they are pretty cheap, Just eat sushi you will hit anything with the crappiest gear.

And like i said BBQ, as a level 60+ i farm so much easier then as a level 20 that trying to farm bullets. Hence it took me 1-2 days to farm what it is worth of a level 20 in a week. Hence, my "post-production" style works better then you expected.

If you levelled RNG, as you claim you did, common sense would be to level it 40 for BCNM40 and CoP missions, giving yourself added utility. BCNM40 "Worms Turn" drops that sinful Ninjustu magic you hate so much, but it still sells for decent gil. I did lots of these for my gil, on top of ISNM and selling Imperial Standing for currency. I didn't really need to farm for RNG or COR at all.

If I camped an NM, it was more often for R/E gear than not.

Consider the fact using these i hit 90% of the shots with squid during /brd /whm (meaning /rng would tell me that 25 racc+acc trait is useless.) I don't think i even need all these gear to begin with.

You can say this to make yourself feel better, but that doesn't make it true. Anyone who subs /WHM, /BRD or /NIN will feel the dropoff in accuracy almost right away, even with sushi. The +22 Range Accuracy from the Accuracy Bonus Traits is extremly useful, in addtion to Sharpshot and Barrage, which also make a difference. If you can't feel the benefits of Barrage for your damage or AGI for the accuracy Quick Draw, something just add up. Sushi is good, but it doesn't really make up that much for subbing /WHM or /BRD.

just for the record FYI, I do have everything what a 68 should and BEST to have (i even have hexagun (brought @ 100k seriously overpriced too), trailer, gun belt, scop+1 x2 ring, drone +1 x2, spect..etc, all AF, only thing i don't have +1 pants (god sake 500k for each...). Since it take me 1 day to farm 200k (i have my ways as a 60+).

Hexagun isn't the best gun for your level, Matchlock and Shark Gun are. I don't expect Shark Gun out of anyone, but Matchlock was at 56 and its probably cheaper than a Hexagun.

Hexagun is for wearing around in Whitegate, nothing more. Its a pretty gun, but the ugly guns do better damage right now. I was sweet on Hexa for a while too, but then I saw a prettier, stronger and better gun from KSNM30 and decided to settle for the uglier, but more powerful guns until I got Coffinmaker.

About deadeye gloves, how you expect me to get a group that does it? consider corsair aren't BCNM/ISNM welcome (even i know cor is good for them but people want rdm/brd), i have tried few time, no one ever want to even do it with me

You have no /NIN sub, of course no one will help you. There are two things you need to win ISNM60 "Making a Mockery" (1) High spike damage, preferably from piercing weapns (COR, RNG, DRG, SAM are all good for that) and (2) a Ninja Subjob. The /NIN sub is for when everyone gets charmed, even the WHM or RDM should sub /NIN for this BCNM. I usually do this BCNM with RNGx4, NIN and WHM. Works beautifully. RNGs bring the high burst damage, /NIN lets them survive attacks made on you when Charm wears off. You can swap out a RNG/NIN for a COR/NIN in this case.

COR has a nice total package for BCNMs. While we have no AoE sleep, we do have burst damage, buffs and a strong, light-based sleep on our side. Get a BLM to cover the AoE stuff (which is standard anyway) and COR is nothing but an asset. I've stalled NMs with Light Shot and blinked the damage in BCs long enough to help buy recovery time for weakened allies. I've taken BRD into some of the same BCNMs and it just doesn't compare. I'll give BRD an edge on Steamed Sprouts, but that's about it.

[Tenkia]

Ok, all of my questions have been answered, thank you very much omgwtfbbqkitten especially.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Yeah, now that all questions have been answered...

I heard SevIfrit and Feba eat babies.

[Tenkia]

ewww

[Demonwhisper]

i agree with omg on this QD is key for a COR at any lvl.

COR is not a DD by any means and i laugh at ppl who try, with aa B rank in Marksmenship its quite sad. a CORs job is to pull and buff. for quick pulling in a meripo use QD to pull as it is instant claim, u can beat ANY brd and at that any job with a QD pull unless a meripo as a RNG pullin with shadowbind XD lol.

think of COR as a brd with a gun. You get ur buffs, u get ur mad pulling skills, and u play a key roll at helpin the party as a whole without having to put to much effort in.

for QD if u are short on cash focus on WHAT U NEED, not what u want. what need for COR is some bullets (QD don't work without'em) light and dark cards (sleep and dispel) and a proper sub :p /nin works just fine but for the true Support role go /whm. /rng will help you lvl up marksmenship with Sharpshot. And if u do infact wanna do some damage SharpShot barrage for damage then Slugshot after.

COR should on engage from a distance to WS if they want to, the occasionly R.att is fine but its just wasting ur money. The damage u do isn't that effective in a good PT at any lvl. and besides with u engaged on the monster u are taking time away from ur pulls. Having to put away ur weapon then start runnin after the mob is dead will brake chain soon so it is best to get ur buffs up and run to the next mob.

happy lvling

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

COR is not a DD by any means and i laugh at ppl who try, with aa B rank in Marksmenship its quite sad. a CORs job is to pull and buff.

My slugshots beg to differ. I'll pull if I'm needed to pull, but I do not accept buffing and pulling as my only roles. This job is very versitile, I refuse to pidgeonhole it as a puller, especially given that for 71 levels, its a really poor puller.

for quick pulling in a meripo use QD to pull as it is instant claim, u can beat ANY brd and at that any job with a QD pull unless a meripo as a RNG pullin with shadowbind XD lol.

QD pulls are a last resort, your pulling reach is superior with bullets

think of COR as a brd with a gun.

No, and its not a RNG with buffs, either. Its Corsair.

You get ur buffs, u get ur mad pulling skills, and u play a key roll at helpin the party as a whole without having to put to much effort in.

If you're not putting effort in the whole time, you're leeching EXP. As any job, period.

for QD if u are short on cash focus on WHAT U NEED, not what u want. what need for COR is some bullets (QD don't work without'em) light and dark cards (sleep and dispel) and a proper sub :p /nin works just fine but for the true Support role go /whm. /rng will help you lvl up marksmenship with Sharpshot. And if u do infact wanna do some damage SharpShot barrage for damage then Slugshot after.

Dark, Light, Earth, Ice and Wind cards I consider standard. Think like a good BRD and RDM when you approach Quick Draw. Light and Dark for Dispel and Sleep. Earth, Ice and Wind to enhance the key enfeebles any WHM, RDM or SCH would happen to cast - this would be Slow, Paralyze and Silence respectively.

NIN is the most ghetto of subjobs for COR, so useless for the majority of levels I feel sorry for the CORs that used it from 24 to 75. Dramatic loss of accuracy. /DNC stomps /WHM subjob flat everywhere but some areas of endgame and manaburn. /DNC lets you use melee gear, to boot, getting you out of that unwieldly MP gear.

DNC and RNG are really the top subs now. WHM is your best full support subjob at certain points of endgame. RDM and BLU enhance QD via MAB, but also offer curing support. BLM is a luxury sub, but the best MAB sub. BRD is another luxury sub, but I prefer WHM for full support as /BRD leaves you defenseless. /WAR is just purely for epeening Detonator with Martial Gun in meritpo.

COR should on engage from a distance to WS if they want to, the occasionly R.att is fine but its just wasting ur money. The damage u do isn't that effective in a good PT at any lvl. and besides with u engaged on the monster u are taking time away from ur pulls. Having to put away ur weapon then start runnin after the mob is dead will brake chain soon so it is best to get ur buffs up and run to the next mob.

Before multi-hit weapons, melee TP for damage is a waste of time. TPing with bullets will give you superior DoT and better TP returns per shot. If you can't spend the money, go play a job you can spend the money on, kthx.

[Demonwhisper]

If you enjoy getting out pulled by a BRD in a meripo with a slow ass gun the go ahead. Instant claim and run away keeps the best chain goin. in a good PT u have time for 1 roll, and a pull and so one, keep ur cycle going and thats it. I dunno where u play but its obviously low-grade. yes COR never frontline DD... useless, and if u have time to pull with bullets, go for it. I was just stating that if played right COR can out pull any job in the game, and keep the best chains.

COR is never a DD even if u can do damage if u wanna do damage go play RNG

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

If you enjoy getting out pulled by a BRD in a meripo with a slow ass gun the go ahead. Instant claim and run away keeps the best chain goin. in a good PT u have time for 1 roll, and a pull and so one, keep ur cycle going and thats it. I dunno where u play but its obviously low-grade. yes COR never frontline DD... useless, and if u have time to pull with bullets, go for it. I was just stating that if played right COR can out pull any job in the game, and keep the best chains.

If you're going to pull in meritpo, you pull with a Peacemaker, period. Fastest gun on the market and used in tandem with Light Shot, it will fluster even the quickest, tricked out BRDs.

You only get to Light Shot every 50 seconds to one minute depending on your merits and QD charges. If I'm pulling, I cannot rely on Light Shot alone. The only time I'm use QD to pull is to pressure the rival puller into getting greedy and fucking up. Given enough pressure, a foolish BRD will eventually go for Horde Lullaby on Greater Colibri.

Also, you fail to consider the fact that while a mob moving out of spell range interupts a spell, it does not stop the firing of a gun once the action is engaged. Again, pulling with bullets has its advantages.

COR is never a DD even if u can do damage if u wanna do damage go play RNG

I actually am a 75 RNG and 75 BRD on top of 75 COR. I'll go with my experiences, thanks. COR is support first and DD second, but to say COR is never a DD shows your ignorance toward its potential.

I don't know what server you're on, but I'm on the most densely populated server in the game - Odin. I'd be willing to bet you're one of those CORs that wears full AF, uses hexaguns and level 22 Bullets. You probably don't even have a MAB or AGI build for QD and probably levelled it "just for merits."

Congrats on levelling an NQ BRD, man.

[Taskmage]

If you're not putting effort in the whole time, you're leeching EXP. As any job, period.

If I sigged quotes, this would be one of them.

[Demonwhisper]

lmao i fail lmao, odin is the most dense server now eh? interesting....

I don't care what server u are from it matter what grade of ppl u play with the ppl on my server, Bahamut from the game reknown LS Thanatos tought me the proper way to play cor lol and no full COR af is horrible the only decent pieces is the hat body and feet. u can stiff replace these with Salvage and Assualt gear but for free gear its not horrible.

Ya i agree with Peacemaker for sure, but it will greatly effect ur QD if u didnt know QD is affected by gun DMG and bullet DMG along with AGI and MAB. A hexagun, even tho its a COR gun shouldn't be used because of its horrible damage. and ya pulling with bullet has its advantages, for sure it does. but i was just sayin nothing beats running and QD a mob out of a brds spell lol.