[Yellow Mage]

THAT'S NOT THE POINT !!!



. . .err, one means to say that the OP and I have faced/will face similar situations, no ?

[Jei]

:O

No it's totally different. We're trying to encourage the OP because Cor/Whm is a totally acceptable combination for party play. Whm while it's not the most popular sub choice, it is still a good sub.

If you say, hey, that's just like subbing PLD for RDM.... that just makes Cor/Whm sounds so bad you're frightenning the OP.

[Raitox]

I've got it, good sir! PLD/RDM is excellent solo, amirite? Better than RDM/PLD, amirite? See? SEE?! while neither is good in a party, PLD/RDM solo is pretty good.

[Yellow Mage]

Subbed RDM equals no.

And Jei, those words hurt . . .

EDIT: I would like to take this space to say why, that just Red Mage is fine on its own, and /Paladin is just a bonus onto that, though apparently not the "best bonus" by most's standards.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

This topic isn't really about wanting to be a COR/WHM, its about someone who doesn't want to put the work into COR to be the best they can at it. If you're just here to get your pirate fix, sub WHM or NIN and limp to 60 like the rest, get your AF and quit. If you're serious about COR, level RNG, please.

RNG is not an expensive sub to level. People try to dance around it because they heard RNG is expensive. Ranger is expensive past 50 which is well-beyond subjob level. You won't break over a mil getting it to 37, I don't even think I spent 500k. I got RNG to 40 in two weeks flat.

Everyone levels NIN as a sub because of zomgutsusemi, but its actually more expensive sub to level to 37 due to gear, scrolls and tools.

[Murphie]

Originally Posted by Aksannyi

Murphie, please explain to me what DIAF means?

Oh wait, hold on, is it "Die in a fire?"

That's exactly it.

[Galaxia]

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten

This topic isn't really about wanting to be a COR/WHM, its about someone who doesn't want to put the work into COR to be the best they can at it. If you're just here to get your pirate fix, sub WHM or NIN and limp to 60 like the rest, get your AF and quit. If you're serious about COR, level RNG, please.
RNG is not an expensive sub to level. People try to dance around it because they heard RNG is expensive. Ranger is expensive past 50 which is well-beyond subjob level. You won't break over a mil getting it to 37, I don't even think I spent 500k. I got RNG to 40 in two weeks flat.
Everyone levels NIN as a sub because of zomgutsusemi, but its actually more expensive sub to level to 37 due to gear, scrolls and tools.

I think not.
Money isn't a issue but I simply don't get the time to lvl up 3 jobs >.<
I barely get time for one with all the stuff I have to do during the day.
Plus lvlin RNG would bore me to tears my personal prefrence is COR/WHM

[Mini Neruto]

Originally Posted by Galaxia

Yep its changed
It's RNG or Nin now...
Maybe I should do BRD....... I really wanna be Cor tho
How can anyone reject cor just for been /whm
HAVE THEY NOT SEEN THE ROLLS?

I love bard. Its really fun. Lots of people want you x.x. I usually get party invites while im in a party lol.

[SharMarali]

It's been my observation that many of the JP CORs use /WHM, while the majority of the NA CORs use either /NIN or /RNG.

There must be SOME reason why so many of the JP players are using /WHM. It must be beneficial in some way or they'd have stopped doing it, at least in theory.

[Maju]

Originally Posted by SharMarali

It's been my observation that many of the JP CORs use /WHM, while the majority of the NA CORs use either /NIN or /RNG.
There must be SOME reason why so many of the JP players are using /WHM. It must be beneficial in some way or they'd have stopped doing it, at least in theory.

Can't say I've ever seen a COR sub WHM past L20.

[nanatsu]

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten

This topic isn't really about wanting to be a COR/WHM, its about someone who doesn't want to put the work into COR to be the best they can at it. If you're just here to get your pirate fix, sub WHM or NIN and limp to 60 like the rest, get your AF and quit. If you're serious about COR, level RNG, please.
RNG is not an expensive sub to level. People try to dance around it because they heard RNG is expensive. Ranger is expensive past 50 which is well-beyond subjob level. You won't break over a mil getting it to 37, I don't even think I spent 500k. I got RNG to 40 in two weeks flat.
Everyone levels NIN as a sub because of zomgutsusemi, but its actually more expensive sub to level to 37 due to gear, scrolls and tools.

I think it's a bit presumptuous to say that about the OP, having no knowledge of the person personally whatsoever. And I think that's totally pigeonholing someone into something that's not neccessarily true. Being serious does not neccessarily = upholding others people's ideas about what is best.

Being serious about something can also be about doing something you love and being able to do it everyday with efficiency and skill. So what if the OP wants to be COR/WHM? Let her be serious about being the best COR/WHM possible. Personally I myself would go /rng. There's not much I would do outside the norm. But that just my preference. I would also like to be serious about playing war. But tons of people would point out that I should be war/nin. I wouldn't do that, so screw them. I'd be serious about being the best war/mnk I could be and I'd work hard to prove my worth as a war. I wouldn't go so far as to insult someone I don't know by saying something like you said.

It's not somehow making the world worse or making others look bad. And if it can be pulled off and become an awesome useful combo for pts, then the COR job just got that much better. So I don't see what the problem is.

I don't know the OP personally myself but I will say this. If the OP is truly serious about being a cor and really loves the job but STILL wants to be /whm and fully understands the advantages and disadvantages of it, then I say go for it. And I wish you luck on doing well with it if you do.

[ValiantRedemption]

Originally Posted by SharMarali

It's been my observation that many of the JP CORs use /WHM, while the majority of the NA CORs use either /NIN or /RNG.

There must be SOME reason why so many of the JP players are using /WHM. It must be beneficial in some way or they'd have stopped doing it, at least in theory.

Aye, I have grouped up with a COR/WHM(Level 50ish) in a Japanese Party and they play just like a back up healer. I did find it helpful when the COR did cast Curaga and just seems to make my life a little easier. I also had a friend during the time that was a COR/RNG and noticed that the COR/WHM could barely, barely pull half of what he could pull(COR/WHM would pull 70 if they were lucky at Dark Shot when COR/RNG could pull 170+ easy).

Pretty much, I just think they see it as a rdm when there is not one availible.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Originally Posted by Galaxia

I think not.
Money isn't a issue but I simply don't get the time to lvl up 3 jobs >.<
I barely get time for one with all the stuff I have to do during the day.
Plus lvlin RNG would bore me to tears my personal prefrence is COR/WHM

According to your Alla profile your RNG is level 1. Your NIN is level 1. Warrior level 2. I'd say don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

But you have a 54 SMN, 46 WHM and 37 BLM and then misc jobs below your 18 BRD. So it sounds like we're skipping the vegetables and going right for the ice cream here.

For you do have a fully capable COR, you'd need WAR to 18 at least to work on full /NIN to 37 sub and then /RNG to 37 after.

My question is this - If you had the time to give SMN all the tools it needed, why can't you do the same for COR? The way you want to play COR sounds much more like you want to be a BRD. If you're going to play a BRD, be a BRD, especially so if time is a concern for you.

I see /WHM as valid in some situations and I'm levelling it right now to benefit my COR. I've done WHM before on another character and I swore I'd never do it again. I don't like having to do BLM to 18 and WHM to 37 again, but I can't deny the situational benefits of doing so and don't think my COR would be complete without having it as an option. However, I still feel /RNG is of the most benefit.

[Radel-King_of_Pirates]

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten

According to your Alla profile your RNG is level 1. Your NIN is level 1. Warrior level 2. I'd say don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

But you have a 54 SMN, 46 WHM and 37 BLM and then misc jobs below your 18 BRD. So it sounds like we're skipping the vegetables and going right for the ice cream here.

For you do have a fully capable COR, you'd need WAR to 18 at least to work on full /NIN to 37 sub and then /RNG to 37 after.

My question is this - If you had the time to give SMN all the tools it needed, why can't you do the same for COR? The way you want to play COR sounds much more like you want to be a BRD. If you're going to play a BRD, be a BRD, especially so if time is a concern for you.

I see /WHM as valid in some situations and I'm levelling it right now to benefit my COR. I've done WHM before on another character and I swore I'd never do it again. I don't like having to do BLM to 18 and WHM to 37 again, but I can't deny the situational benefits of doing so and don't think my COR would be complete without having it as an option. However, I still feel /RNG is of the most benefit.

Actually my fair lass Cor is a very interesting job to tinker with, I can say I look up to you when I 1st lvl cor because your words were wise and did shine light on to the topic. In standards of a Pirate get by and get the gold by doin less work as needed, Pirates also if provoked will take on armada of ships to get the gold, treasure, or the fair, beautiful girl.

Now after saying that Cor/Rng puller but is slow delay of the gun until 40 when ele cards are useable (In tight spots where you need pull a mob while 3 other rngs are close to grab it) so eh get by just make sure you can use /recast know when its up while camping for the next. Also racc bonus is very useful and the other stuff quite fun, can't wait for Barrage.

Cor/nin I can't say much never pted with one only soloed with it for camping mobs and trying build a better buffer.

Cor/whm, I pted with one with my pld and have to say it was very interesting. had a me, a drk, cor/whm, smn, whm, and the other I don't truly remember, think it was a blu or war. Anyway the since the smn was around the effects of Evokers roll was very nice, with the sanction, and auto refresh. the Cor did minor heals to save mp and did alright pulling. since the cor gear I believe get -2 em (I'll check later and edit if need be). But to say I wouldn't do it, doesn't mean others can't. So ms. Galaxia cor/whm just hope you know what you are getting into in my mind pre 40 cor/whm will have tough road.

[Maju]

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten

My question is this - If you had the time to give SMN all the tools it needed, why can't you do the same for COR?

I find this strange as well.

Are you on a time bugdet? Do you absolutely need to have your COR L75 by a certain date? Why exactly do you not have enough time to level subs? What would you spend that time on if not on leveling subs?

This whole "I don't have time" argument blows my mind, to be honest.