[Iccarus]

Title pretty much sum it up.

I know it often depends on the party but more often than not I get half the party saying I should pull (which I don't mid doing) and the other half saying that a Support member should be buffing people up not pulling.

What are your views on this? It doesn't just have to be Corsair's that reply to this I just want a general selection on this subject.

Pros:

We have a Ranged Weapon that can hit them for a fair bit of damage to begin with.
For those Corsair's that sub Ninja they have access to Shadows for extra protection

Cons:

While we are pulling we are not buffing so it prevents us from doing our job properly.
For those of us that sub Ranger if it's a long pull and we don't have much protection to save us from a beating.
Our guns have a long delay which often ends up with someone stealing the mob intended or a mob pops at our camp and I'm on the way back with one in tow ¬.¬.

Like I said previsouly I have no problems with pulling but say if a Thief was in the party or a Ranger with Ninja sub should they be the ones pulling over me?

I just find some people just automatically assume that just becuase we have a Ranged weapon we should immediatley pull even if there is like a Warrior or Thief that has a Ranged Weapon as well which I think is just narrow minded.

Your opinions?

[Aeolus]

If it causes you too slack off or not have time to do the other things cor do in a PT then no. If not yes.

[Murphie]

They wouldn't be my first choice of puller. But if they want to, and they are keeping up with buffing, then sure.

[Celeal]

If there is more than one player can pull in a party, I would prefer the higher experience/skill puller for pulling: Who can avoid links, knows the area, knows the spawn points, knows the mob, and can make the exp. chain #5. The rest of party watch out the path for pops. If the exp. area is extremely packed with parties, which implies lack of mobs or waiting for spawns, I would prefer all melees in the party to search for pop and pull.

In some rare parties, I had been puller as a MNK without using range weapon or using provoke too. I would not say COR should or should not pull. I would say keep COR pulling as an option.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

In a crowded camp, I typically have problems with being the main puller since searching for mobs can take time off from the roll cycle. Not only that, the high delay of guns can lead to lost claims. Its just hard to compete with THF or RNG on Xbow or BRD pulling with Elegy/Lullaby. Quick Draw may be a fast claim ability, but its something to be used selectively based on forthcoming nukes or existing debuffs, plus it just tacks on a bigger hate spike at the start of a fight if unresisted. If a THF asks me to pull in such a camp, they just get a dirty look.

But if the camp isn't crowded, then I'm generally willing to pull and in most cases these days, I pull. Its not hard to keep four rolls going, doing the ranged melee bit and pulling if there's no competition.

[Loial]

COR in my static pulls. I think its because his other job is bard and normally we'd do 3 melee, 1 redmage, 2 bard merit PTs. Normally the bards pull at a furious pace, so its already bred into him and he can gauge when to pull the next mob, when we might need a rest, when his buffs will wear, etc.

However, if you have another job suitable to pull, then it can be harmless to let them do it.

[Zoner]

I've been called upon to pull in parties, but I think COR makes a 2nd rate puller. As it's been noted, I get mobs poached on me all the time because the delay on the gun is so high. (I suppose you could macro in pebble for pulling, but that's getting ridiculous.)

Granted, I'm only 32nd level in this job, and don't have a whole lot of experience with it, but I'd say the group is better off with a THF or RNG puller. Our static (in which I'm playing DRG) has even experimented with our NIN tank pulling and had a good bit of success.

[Murphie]

It's depressing how few WARs and SAMs pull these days. No one even mentions them anymore with regard to pulling.

[Shinhiryu_Kage]

I don't think CORs should be expected to pull like RNGs and THFs are. I've been in PTs where CORs have pulled before and have experienced rolls getting slacked off. I don't primarily enjoy it myself.

I do know when I played COR to 40, I did not like pulling one bit. It caused me to have to delay rolls and I am a stickler for doing what my job is suppose to do, which is keep rolls on people.

So, I say no way lol.

[Dayala]

I don;t have a problem pulling in pts but you have to make it clear to your pt leader that rolls are your priority. I've screwed up chain 20+ to do rolls and angered pt leaders for taking my time rolling. I strongly suggested that the war pull then if he wanted the mages to stay refreshed. I hate it when brds pull as a mage because usually it's a over camped area and I never get my ballads ;o same thing applies to rolls, if cor is too busy trying to find mobs, they can't roll and their cycle gets thrown off.

I'd rather not pull as a cor but I end up doing it anyways.

EDIT: with enough practice you can time pulls with rolls, just have to be real smart about it. Once you have it figured out, don't get lazy with your rolls.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

COR's do have a less restrictive window in which to buff than BRDs do, though. We buff and it lasts for five minutes, they buff it lasts for two minutes - if anyone is at risk of blowing chains and buff cycles, its BRD. A good BRD will know how to cycle their buffs while pulling and its no different for COR.

And keep in mind that there ARE rolls we don't really have to perpetually double up on. Things like Healer's and Samurai Roll, which are common even with the relevant jobs not present, will still give some benefit regardless of the value you land on.

Peacemaker and the recent QD adjustment make COR a extremely viable and competitive puller now. Though at lowere leve QD really isn't what you should be pulling with, nor is that the case at any level, but it works in a pinch.

That aside, anyone who bitches about a broken chain 60 or w/e can go take a long walk off a short pier. You're getting a ton of EXP anyway, so STFU and get a life. God forbid we proritize our job functions.

[Aeni]

I'd rather have the COR pulling than my main healer. Just my two cents.

[Murphie]

Meanwhile, those WARs just stand around like idiots.

[Aeolus]

Why would a warrior pull lol? They cant sleep and they certainly dont want to be leaving the fight early when your trying to keep chain past 5 alive. Same with any other job except brd and well, I dont think cor should pull either just like when you have rngs pulling they cant sleep a mob very well or quickly and usually chains just end up dieing. Brd ftw, cor/rng/rdm if not. Thf can leave the fight as well early if they whack sata up before pulling so benifiting the Dmg delt in the long run. IMO

[Murphie]

Eh. Must be nice to just stand around and do damage while the rest of the party works overtime to provide exp for your ass.

Later on in the game, I totally understand why WARs wouldn't pull. But for much of the game, you're not in a TP burn situation, and I'd rather have a WAR go out and pull something than a COR who has buffs to worry about and a really long delay on their ranged attack. They can't sleep either, so I see little reason why one of the melee can't pull. I mean, if it's a choice between COR or RDM, or one of the other members of the party, then I'm going to look to some of those melees and ask why they don't step up.

They certainly used to do it without bitching, but I guess they are all princesses now.