Relative price of video game consoles.

Feba · 02-03-2008, 10:12 PM

Saw this, remember it came up in a discussion about PS3/360 price once. Figured some of us would be interested in it.

Jarre · 02-03-2008, 11:45 PM

The problem comparing a 360 price to a PS3 price is that even though the graph shows the PS3 higher, it hasn't taken into account that you need a seperate HD drive and a few other extras to bring up the spec of the 360 to that of the PS3's standard package.

On paper the 360 looks cheaper, but in reality to compare they are both the same price.

What you havn't allowed for also is the insane mark up we had in the UK. I remember buying a megadrive (Genesis) and it cost me £200 ($400) double what it cost in the US then when it first came out.

Feba · 02-04-2008, 12:12 AM

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The problem comparing a 360 price to a PS3 price is that even though the graph shows the PS3 higher, it hasn't taken into account that you need a seperate HD drive and a few other extras to bring up the spec of the 360 to that of the PS3's standard package.

Wrong. That's like saying that it's misguided to compare a VW to a Maybach because the Maybach has more features; when all you're comparing is the price of a car. The 360 doesn't NEED those things, which is why they aren't included; same goes for the VW. Yes, the Maybach might be flashier and have more gadgets, but when all you want to do is get on the road, you're not going to shell out all that money upgrading a VW.
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What you havn't allowed for also is the insane mark up we had in the UK

Go make your own graph. This is pretty obviously for US prices.

Boldfinger · 02-04-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Feba

Wrong. That's like saying that it's misguided to compare a VW to a Maybach because the Maybach has more features; when all you're comparing is the price of a car. The 360 doesn't NEED those things, which is why they aren't included; same goes for the VW. Yes, the Maybach might be flashier and have more gadgets, but when all you want to do is get on the road, you're not going to shell out all that money upgrading a VW.

Essentially I do agree with the point that you're trying to get across, in that they will both play games straight out of the box with no fuss...

However, by the same token, a VW isn't ever claiming to offer the same driving experience to that of a Maybach, where as the 360 kinda does claim to offer up the same (or better) gaming experience to a PS3.

IMHO, for that to happen, you kinda do NEED to have what the basic PS3 offers over the basic 360.

Edit: and I own all 3 systems BTW, so am in no way a 'Fanboy' of any particular brand over the other. I'm just a slave to gaming in general

londrieved · 02-04-2008, 02:13 AM

curious the Wii isn't included in the figures at all.

Feba · 02-04-2008, 02:19 AM

Nah, but it's price is easy enough to see.

Caspian · 02-04-2008, 10:00 AM

NeoGeo and 3DO prices still make me laugh.
I remember them being outrageously priced when they came out.
Was it NeoGeo that had the Bonk the Caveman game?
I'm sure prices had a lot to do with why they both failed, but as I recall (its been a long while) there were very few games for either system, and they all sucked.

Coinspinner · 02-04-2008, 12:43 PM

Bonk is TurboGraphix 16.

NeoGeo's library was basically just SNK games, mainly fighters and brawlers. It was sold as home system, but was mainly intended for sale to hotels and arcades.

bikkebakke · 02-04-2008, 01:09 PM

No one pointed out that those PS3 prices are no longer correct? It's priced at $400 and $500 now...

Feba · 02-04-2008, 01:13 PM

These are launch prices. They would be meaningless otherwise.

Omniblast · 02-04-2008, 01:15 PM

I looked back at the data and did a quick analysis of what prices would be in today's dollars, since the graph and data represented was for 2006. Here's what a Neo Geo would cost in 2008.

The percentage was based on U.S. Retail Escalation, averages to about 2.91%, which is close to 3% for what we use in our business. The calculator is based on Tom's Inflation Calculator.

If anyone wants to build a correct 2008 model, feel free to use the %'s provided at the link.

Callisto · 02-04-2008, 01:17 PM

Noone mentioned that Bonk's Adventure was fucking awesome, either.

Add: For that matter, so was Lemmings 3D for 3DO. Night Trap, not so much.

Mhurron · 02-04-2008, 01:19 PM

But the NeoGeo was a Manly system

Armando · 02-04-2008, 01:19 PM

The reason for the Neo Geo's ridiculous price tag is that it wasn't a console so much as it was an arcade machine's hardware jammed into a console-like shell. 'Course, that doesn't mean it was a smart idea, just saying.

Not sure what's the deal with 3DO LOL.

EDIT: Hahaha, nice link Mhurron.

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