Scorpion Arrows 49-59? I don't think so... - Page 3 - Final Fantasy XI :: Dreams in Vana'diel :: Community

LyonheartLakshmi · 12-23-2006, 01:20 PM

I think I've seen a 0.3 as high as 59. But that was because I was doing a recipe 9 levels above me. From 60 and on up, I don't recall anything other than 0.1s. So either a 0.2 after 60 is extremely, extremely rare, or just non-existant.

Caspian · 12-23-2006, 01:26 PM

I think I heard someone on BG forums saying they've had one. Take that for what you will, I could be remembering wrong or they could be full of crap.
Ofcourse, I wouldn't believe you could get a HQ synth if you're below the cap if I hadn't been told that you could by several people I trust on these forums.

Sabaron · 12-23-2006, 04:16 PM

I've gotten quite a few HQs at below cap... Unfortunately, they've all been on things where HQ doesn't matter. Most recently, at -7 off Scorpion Arrows, I got a 66. Arrows and other stackable consumables for some reason seem a bit easier to HQ.

LyonheartLakshmi · 12-23-2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Caspian

Ofcourse, I wouldn't believe you could get a HQ synth if you're below the cap if I hadn't been told that you could by several people I trust on these forums.

This is another case where I think it's just obscenely rare at best. In my hundreds of levels of skill ups, I have only gotten HQ results maybe 3 times. The last two times I have gotten it, I know for a fact that I had image support to push my effective level up to or beyond the recipe cap.

My guess is that the people who say that they routinely (i.e. once every 50 skill up attempts) get HQs while skilling up are doing so when their effective crafting level has reached or exceeded the recipe cap.

I'd place the HQ rate for when you're below the cap at something like 0.01%, and not the 1 to 2% you get with Tier 0.

Icemage · 12-23-2006, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by LyonheartLakshmi

I'd place the HQ rate for when you're below the cap at something like 0.01%, and not the 1 to 2% you get with Tier 0.

I agree, my crafting experience reflects this as well.

I'll note my additional observation that every time I've gotten an HQ while still skilling up, it has been on a day that the crystal used was weak against. i.e. fire crystal HQ on watersday.

Icemage

Caspian · 12-23-2006, 07:37 PM

That may be why I've never seen it then. I'm paranoid and never craft for skillups with anything that would push me above the cap. It probably doesn't make a difference, but I'm always afraid that it will hurt my skillup rate.

Sabaron · 12-23-2006, 08:13 PM

I've counted 3. Ever... All on consumables or items that don't matter like Pineapple Juice. Amend that "quite a few" to a few... I think that makes my statement sound more prolific than it actually was. I consider 3 to be "quite a few" in the case of undercap skillups

Lleo · 12-24-2006, 03:06 AM

I have had many HQs while skilling up, but all these HQs did come when I had support or guild gear that put my effective level at or above the cap. Then the HQ of a skillup recipe is worth something, I always try to get above cap with support and guild gear. These HQs was paying for some of my veteran clothcraft levels.