Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-30-2008, 01:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
ONE LIFE
Oracle of Knowledge
 
Feba's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,797
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 1,675
Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts
Gil: 22,407
Bank: 403,109
Total Gil: 425,515
Donate
Blue Magic in non-FF games
I just had a thought, how many other games use Blue Magic? Obviously healing and damaging and buffing magic is very common, but I can only think of one example (Castlevania, Aria of Sorrow) from outside the FF series that does it.

What other games out there use it?



Feba is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 01:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
Mog
King of the Oompa Loompas
Oracle of Knowledge
 
Mog's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 3,342
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 10
Thanked 115x in 94 Posts
Gil: 24,554
Bank: 36,526
Total Gil: 61,079
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
Folklore.

It kinda cheats though. It randomly pops out a demon-guy then makes him go away after the move is complete.
Mog is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 02:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
ONE LIFE
Oracle of Knowledge
 
Feba's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,797
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 1,675
Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts
Gil: 22,407
Bank: 403,109
Total Gil: 425,515
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
[anal] that sounds like summoning, buddy [/anal]



Feba is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 02:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
X's General
FFXIWiki Team
 
Armando's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Puerto Rico
Posts: 2,828
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 215
Thanked 699x in 373 Posts
Gil: 44,257
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 44,257
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
Mega Man X lol.



Armando is online now   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 02:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
Loaded With Sodium
Oracle of Knowledge
 
Murphie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,964
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 448
Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts
Gil: 2,231
Bank: 28,893
Total Gil: 31,124
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
Other...games?
Murphie is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 04:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
Chocobreeder
 
KingOfZeal's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 417
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 85
Thanked 59x in 35 Posts
Gil: 493
Bank: 36,219
Total Gil: 36,712
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
Chrono Cross had a character which could change into any monster you had killed before with that character in the party. When he changed, he had all the spells and abilities of that character.

It was actually the only redeeming point of that character, as I remember... he/she/it was really annoying otherwise. Then again, it has been a while since I played.



Kindadarii (Bahamut)
75BRD / 68PUP / 66WHM / 34SMN
68.2 + 2 Woodworking
19.7 Alchemy


Breeding Chocobos? Visit Chocobreeder.com to find chocobos in your area!
KingOfZeal is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 04:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
Raison d'etre
 
DieselBoy09's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 487
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 72
Thanked 24x in 18 Posts
Gil: 7,065
Bank: 3,086
Total Gil: 10,152
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
SaGa Frontier. A great game.



Twilightrose- THF/49 WAR/24 WHM/53 BLM/32 RNG/15 BST/25 NIN/27
DieselBoy09 is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 09:39 PM   #8 (permalink)
Digital Wizard
Super Moderator
 
Icemage's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 5,992
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 69
Thanked 458x in 301 Posts
Gil: 204
Bank: 82,157
Total Gil: 82,361
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
Originally Posted by Feba View Post
[anal] that sounds like summoning, buddy [/anal]
Spoken like someone who's never played Folklore.

There's two characters in Folklore, and while they do "sort of" summon the critters in question at times, Keats (one of the two characters) usually just incorporates the creature's attack into one of his offensive or defensive moves.


Icemage
Icemage is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 10:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
Digitally Devilish
FFXIWiki Team
 
Omgwtfbbqkitten's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Windurst
Posts: 4,348
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 143
Thanked 1,162x in 649 Posts
Gil: 23,993
Bank: 8
Total Gil: 24,000
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
What about Kirby. Ok, he's pink, but he eats his enemies and gains thier abilities. That's kinda like what BLUs do, minus the cannibalism.




Omgwtfbbqkitten is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 10:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
Sexy Taru RDM
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 587
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 28
Thanked 39x in 33 Posts
Gil: 29,599
Bank: 309
Total Gil: 29,908
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
um yoshi in super mario world could eat the turtles and gain attributes based on their shell color, like the red shell gave him fire breath.



Melee RDM since /04 retired OCT2003-AUG2008
75 RDM, /DNC, /NIN, /BLU, /BLM, /WHM, /WAR, /PLD,/SCH,/BRD,/SMN,/RNG,/DRK
75 DNC, /SAM, /WAR, /NIN

RDM AFv2 4/5
DNC AF 5/5
Crimson 5/5
Zenith 3/5
Yigit 5/5
Padawan 5/5
Morigans 2/5

PSN ID: Kurtmooreca
MrMageo is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 10:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
ONE LIFE
Oracle of Knowledge
 
Feba's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,797
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 1,675
Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts
Gil: 22,407
Bank: 403,109
Total Gil: 425,515
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
I'm not sure if I'd count that or not. it's just a temporary measure, you can't build up a library of monster spells like a blue mage should. I also haven't played much Kirby, so I don't remember it actually using any 'magic' power, but that could be wrong.



Feba is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 10:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
Loaded With Sodium
Oracle of Knowledge
 
Murphie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,964
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 448
Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts
Gil: 2,231
Bank: 28,893
Total Gil: 31,124
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
So what exactly would you count?

Last edited by Murphie : 03-30-2008 at 10:53 PM.
Murphie is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 11:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
ONE LIFE
Oracle of Knowledge
 
Feba's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,797
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 1,675
Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts
Gil: 22,407
Bank: 403,109
Total Gil: 425,515
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
Logically, characters that can build up a library of magic drawn from monsters, and use MP (or a similar thing) to use said spells.



Feba is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2008, 01:27 AM   #14 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Jaelachan's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 56
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 6
Thanked 4x in 4 Posts
Gil: 4,151
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 4,151
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
There was a game a long time ago about a kid with a blob, and when you fed the blob jellybeans it changed shape, I guess that could be considered blue magic.



c:x:x:x:x{{::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::>

Proud hater of Windows Vista since Windows XP Service Pack Two!

My limit break involves a moose, the demon Baphomet, and a Kuiper Belt object. It takes four hours and you cant skip any of the cutscenes.
She's coming around for another pass! Do we Fight, Use an Item, or Run?
FIGHT, ITEM, or RUN? DECIDE!

Dont look a gift lion in the mouth!

Perscription strength Assault!
Side effects may include joint pain, loss of mobility, and fainting.

Last edited by Jaelachan : 03-31-2008 at 01:27 AM. Reason: Added a space.
Jaelachan is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2008, 02:13 AM   #15 (permalink)
K Seal Bandit!
FFXIWiki Team
 
LilithAngel's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Misawa AB, Japan
Posts: 888
Style: Dark - Version 5
My Mood:
Thanks: 249
Thanked 145x in 95 Posts
Gil: 17,108
Bank: 51,994
Total Gil: 69,101
Donate
Re: Blue Magic in non-FF games
Well, when it comes to actual Blue Magic, unless it's a SE game, it's not going to be exactly following that formula to a tee. Every company that uses that mechanic will most likely give its own take on it.

That being said, there are many many "Blue Mages" throughout the history of video games, the two of the most known and popular being Mega Man and Kirby. While Kirby only temporarily (or until to the end of the level, depending on player skill/power retention setup) has his opponent's powers, Mega Man (all versions) follows a true Blue Mage formula: he defeats his enemies, takes their power, and even has a limiting factor on the subsequent use of said power (Magic Points are replaced with Reserve Weapon Energy, being that highly advanced technology replaces magic to begin with). He retains said powers indefinitely, insofar as to say indefinitely extends to the closing credits on said game, thus, he builds up a sort of "library of magic from fallen enemies" (their weapons are integrated into his variable weapon system, and the drivers, command functions, and other related functions written to his memory, while the hardware to support the new weaponry is configured either on the spot, or later installed, depending on series).

Mega Man's even blue by default. I'd say he definitely qualifies to be a Blue Mage, regardless of the fact that he's a construct, and you're basically just replacing magical terms with technological ones. And that he's on Capcom's payroll, not Square-Enix's.

Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
What about Kirby. Ok, he's pink, but he eats his enemies and gains thier abilities. That's kinda like what BLUs do, minus the cannibalism.
FFXI Blue Mages kinda do eat their enemies, if only their souls.





Last edited by LilithAngel : 03-31-2008 at 02:16 AM. Reason: I also saw this one person's sig that had "Blue Mages throughout history" with a bunch of video game characters that were Blue Mageish... Can't seem to find it now lol
LilithAngel is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:21 AM.


Site Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.6.8 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. - Modifications by PiNG
©2001-2008 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Title Design by Yoshitaka Amano.
FINAL FANTASY and VANA'DIEL are registered trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd. SQUARE ENIX, PLAYONLINE and the PlayOnline logo are trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Comments and posts are property of their authors. All the rest, including video, articles, compiled game data, and sections, unless otherwise noted, are
©2002-2008 FFXIOnline.com: Dreams in Vana'diel. All rights reserved.
Page generated in 0.38758 seconds with 30 queries