12-19-2007, 11:27 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK, Birmingham Posts: 108 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 18 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 8,748 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 8,748 Donate | Blue mage questions Hey, i am hopefully getting the expansion to get blue mage soon, and i have had a look at the guides. I notice that alot of people use /nin as the sub of choice, but i have also heard people just sticking to war as the sub of choice.
I would like to know your opinions on both the subs, and what advantages are there exactly to both of them.
Im not going to go with a mage sub as i dont have many mage jobs so i thought i would stick to the aggresive type of blue mage. I am interested in blue as it is a melee class aswell.
At mo im a Galka monk level 48. Any advice for a newbie blue mage would be nice
Thanks in advance. "Leo used poop! The attack was ineffective!" | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-19-2007, 11:32 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 609x in 395 Posts Gil: 7,225 Bank: 119,181 Total Gil: 126,406 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions /WAR: For tanking, and boost to sword damage via Berserk. Does nothing for the Blue Magic spells, however. BLU tanking gets a bit iffy around Lv.35+, IMO.
/NIN: For self preservation, and Dual Wield boost to sword DoT and stats on the sub-weapon.
/THF: For very nice boost to some Blue Magic spells using Sneak Attack, with is once a minute.
/WHM: Makes BLU a pretty good healer.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-20-2007, 06:50 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 923 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 231 Thanked 68x in 60 Posts Gil: 2,407 Bank: 60,404 Total Gil: 62,811 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions If you are going to learn Blue Magic Spell from solo or small parties, blu/whm or blu/nin is very useful. For solo (in general) you gain the most from /whm or /nin.
For DD-based BLU, blu/thf is very good. When you use a significant amount of MP for damage (especially spells from mid to high levels), you want the spell land on the mob at its highest potential. Sneak Attack ensures the MP is well spend for physical attack magic. You have the option to separate [Sneak Attack + physical attack spell] and [Chain Affinity + TP + physical attack spell (TP related)], and later better Sword WS; Or combine those resource and Self-Skillchain.  Server: Quetzalcoatl
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75 PLD, 75 SAM, 75 WAR, 75 NIN, 64 MNK, 48 BLU, 39 RDM, 37 DRK, 37 THF, 37 DNC, 33 WHM, 30 PUP, 27 BLM, 26 DRG, 14 RNG | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-23-2007, 01:41 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Lurker Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 240 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 26x in 13 Posts Gil: 7,003 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,003 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions /SCH is a good option if you want to play solely as healer | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-23-2007, 05:20 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 609x in 395 Posts Gil: 7,225 Bank: 119,181 Total Gil: 126,406 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions Originally Posted by VZX | | /SCH is a good option if you want to play solely as healer | OP wants to be an attacker.
Still, why do you say /SCH would be good for healer BLU? I don't think it'd cut MP cost of Blue Magic. (Right?) In that case, /WHM would make much more sense, since BLU already has more efficient direct cure spells than WHM and probably Scholar.
The only place I see /SCH working out better than /WHM for BLU is with Regen II (at BLU74/SCH37). Otherwise, Protectra, Shellra, bar/ra spells, -na spells, and earlier access to Raise all point to /WHM as the better support job for a healer.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-23-2007, 06:25 AM | #6 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,823 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 209 Thanked 697x in 372 Posts Gil: 44,051 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 44,051 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions /SCH would get you B-ranked Healing Skill, which is a lot more than WHM's half-capped Healing Magic, and would thus be a big boost to BLU's healing spells.
Lose utility, gain raw healing potency. Very situational, but worth pointing out. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-23-2007, 06:28 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 609x in 395 Posts Gil: 7,225 Bank: 119,181 Total Gil: 126,406 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions What is the amount of potency boost expected?
I plan to level SCH for support job soon, but my BLU is only Lv.40, and won't be climbing very fast. (My BLU is in a very slow static party. XD )  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-23-2007, 06:31 AM | #8 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,823 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 209 Thanked 697x in 372 Posts Gil: 44,051 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 44,051 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions I have no clue, but a dude on Allakhazam said it was pretty good. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-24-2007, 12:17 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Lurker Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 240 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 26x in 13 Posts Gil: 7,003 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,003 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions Chocotaku says approx. 25% boost (compared to /NIN?) | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-24-2007, 02:04 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,892 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 237 Thanked 609x in 395 Posts Gil: 7,225 Bank: 119,181 Total Gil: 126,406 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions Would be nice to get a comparison of curing potency between /SCH and /WHM.  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
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“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-24-2007, 08:48 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Lurker Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 240 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 26x in 13 Posts Gil: 7,003 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,003 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions B- healing skill at 75 vs A- healing skill at 37 definitely a clear cut win for the prior one, no? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-24-2007, 09:06 AM | #12 (permalink) | | K Seal Bandit! FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Misawa AB, Japan Posts: 886 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 246 Thanked 144x in 94 Posts Gil: 16,936 Bank: 51,994 Total Gil: 68,930 Donate | Re: Blue mage questions If Scholar does give a better rating at 75 than White Mage does at 37, then yes, /SCH would win in the pure healing power department, since healing Blue Magic is affected by any Healing Magic Skill present. This can be seen by the variance in various blue cures by equipping and unequipping +# Healing Magic Skill equipment.
But as Armando said, you give up utility in the status cure department for raw healing power. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:09 AM. | | |