04-06-2007, 07:00 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 90 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10x in 5 Posts Gil: 1,520 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,520 Donate | Effect of other magic skills? There seems to be some effect on blue magic from having other magic skills. This is most notable when subbing WHM or RDM, and casting healing spells like Magic Fruit.
Has anyone done tests to see if Enfeebling Magic helps BLU enfeebles or if Elemental Magic helps BLU nukes? It's always dangerous to base anything off of a piece of equipment, but the fact that BLU can use the Elite Beret (which give +Divine, Enfeeble, and Elemental skill) would seem to support it.
A second question is, would they help increase the chance of inflicting the secondary effects of blue physical spells, such as actually stunning with Head Butt and not just inflicting damage?
I've been trying out BLU/RDM and using the Elite Beret in Dynamis and it seems to help, but it's really hard to tell. So, what are your guys' experience? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 04-29-2007, 04:02 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: England Posts: 152 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6x in 4 Posts Gil: 4,347 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,347 Donate | Re: Effect of other magic skills? Well since divine seal and elemental seal work for BLU spells, you may be right in saying that enfeebling/healing/elemental magic skills have a small boost for Blue magic, more like a secondary thing, since blue magic skill influences them directly. But you never know. ^ ^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-28-2007, 05:46 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 90 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 10x in 5 Posts Gil: 1,520 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,520 Donate | Re: Effect of other magic skills? So I finally decided to test this... Setup: Test as /NIN, /THF, /DRK, /RDM, /BLM. INT and MND were set exactly equal in each case. Fire Spit was used on Bumblebees outside Windurst. Five tests were run for each subjob. Results:
/NIN: 421 Damage
/THF: 421 Damage (tested to make sure Ninjitsu Skill has no effect)
/BLM: 522 Damage
/RDM: 505 Damage
/DRK: 421 Damage Analysis and Conclusions: Elemental Skill from a subjob has no effect of Blue Elemental Magic. After seeing the result for /DRK, a further test was run as /WHM to see if there was a Mage vs Melee subjob effect similar to how DRG wyvern types are determined. /WHM also yielded 421 Damage. Magic Attack Bonus was then equipped as /WHM and the Damage increased to 505, identical to /RDM. This confirmed that the only difference was due to the presence of Magic Attack Bonus I or II. I'm probably mistaken in thinking that the power of Blue cures increase with /WHM, as it seems more likely given this result to simply be a case of Magic Fruit in particular saling very strongly with +MND. Last edited by Mouser : 05-28-2007 at 09:04 AM. Reason: add comment about healing magic | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Mouser For This Useful Post: | | | 05-28-2007, 02:55 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Azure Princess Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 599 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4x in 4 Posts Gil: 3,051 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,051 Donate | Re: Effect of other magic skills? Healing skill does enhance Magic Fruit (and I think Wild Carrot? I don't know, I don't use it :x). The increase can't be explained just from the MND difference. Magic Fruit heals an extra 2 HP for every 1 point of MND, and an extra 1 HP for every point of VIT. With NIN sub, I heal for 380 with Magic Fruit. With WHM sub and the same gear, I heal for something like 415-420 (I don't remember the exact number, but it's around there). That's a 35-40 point difference, which would imply a much bigger increase in MND from NIN sub to WHM sub than I'm actually getting. As far as I can tell though, that's the only other magic skill that affects blue magic. Enfeebling skill hasn't helped me land enfeebles, and elemental skill hasn't effected my nukes. 
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Maps Obtained: 79/79 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-28-2007, 05:35 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,593 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 775 Thanked 334x in 234 Posts Gil: 110,860 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 110,860 Donate | Re: Effect of other magic skills? It'd be great if SE could change this to make elemental skills power up magical blue magic, as the vast majority of magical attack spells are weak compared to physical ones.
But then people might start complaining that attack should factor in too.... @ - @ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:16 AM. | | |