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Thanked 6x in 5 Posts Gil: 557 Bank: 8,564 Total Gil: 9,121 Donate  | Did S/E mess up? I've been wondering this for some time. Since the update when they gave BLU some lower level throwing weapon use. But they forgot to give them a skill in it. They however gave PUP a throwing skill of C+ but no logical throwing items (till the lvl70 all jobs ones and beside ammo that no one ever intentially throws) I don't understand why they would put a job on the list to use of an item, yet don't give them a skill in it.
sorry if this was ever brought up before |  | ::Quote Selected::  | | | 03-27-2007, 05:39 AM | #2 (permalink) | | LOLDRG Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 853 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood:  Thanks: 88
Thanked 66x in 48 Posts Gil: 14,371 Bank: 53,857 Total Gil: 68,229 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? RDM can use staves but have no staff skill. |  | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 05:47 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 55 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 1
Thanked 6x in 5 Posts Gil: 557 Bank: 8,564 Total Gil: 9,121 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? Yes, I know that- but why 'give' the job the ability to use something that they will always be gimped at using? That's all I was asking. Look at PUP in my example .. they can't throw anything (that people would want to throw besides the lvl70 all job Chakrams) Yet even WHM has an E skill rating and can throw pebbles.. lol | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 06:01 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448
Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 3,622 Bank: 33,189 Total Gil: 36,811 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? Do they need to throw anything though? I mean, is it really going to help them any? | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 06:03 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,576 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 114
Thanked 1,399x in 846 Posts Gil: 4,253 Bank: 223,341 Total Gil: 227,594 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? Originally Posted by Dracovivi  | | Yes, I know that- but why 'give' the job the ability to use something that they will always be gimped at using? | Because sometimes you equip something because of stat increases, not because you want to use it.
Again, see RDM equipping Elemental Staves. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 06:07 AM | #6 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,917 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 1,544x in 1,078 Posts Gil: 13,135 Bank: 589,440 Total Gil: 602,574 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? Everything can throw something.
SE probably realized how useless throwing was and decided not to give it to BLU. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 06:31 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Likes to n00k Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 560 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 8
Thanked 22x in 17 Posts Gil: 3,402 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,402 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? Most of those things are for the +stats, but who knows.
There's also the Junior Musketeer's Tuck which Black Mage can equip, but BLMs don't have any sword skill. This one has no stat bonuses, but who knows, maybe SE put it in so that a BLM can sub Thief (which has sword skill) and farm lowbie mobs with a sword for kicks. I've considered it myself. I even think there is a crossbow or bow for BLM.
I wouldn't worry about throwing on BLU. Like Feba mentioned, throwing is pretty useless. Only job that can benefit from throwing is Ninja, but the shurikens aren't cheap. Good Ninjas use the elemental wheel to keep hate. Dedicated Ninjas throw shurikens too.
For pulling purposes, bows and crossbows will mostly be used. Jobs that can't use them are usually casters, so they'll use spells like Dia or Paralyze to pull. Monks hardly ever pull, but they tend to use Chi Blast for those rare occasions. Bards play off key to pull.  Haggai
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Last edited by Haggai : 03-27-2007 at 06:39 AM. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 06:33 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Fence Sitter Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: UK Posts: 1,342 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 53
Thanked 90x in 68 Posts Gil: 4,118 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 4,118 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? | Originally Posted by Feba | | Everything can throw something. | I threw my Phantom Tathlum at Sewer Syrup - does that count?
I'm petriefied of throwing my HH Bomb...  | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | "As a RDM, it should irk you to the depths of your soul when a mob had the audacity to buff itself in front of you." | | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 06:38 AM | #9 (permalink) | | factcheck.org Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,917 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,707
Thanked 1,544x in 1,078 Posts Gil: 13,135 Bank: 589,440 Total Gil: 602,574 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? BLM sword is only good for walking around and making people go "What the hell, a BLM with a sword?"
Kinda like a DRG in a robe. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 06:40 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,576 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 114
Thanked 1,399x in 846 Posts Gil: 4,253 Bank: 223,341 Total Gil: 227,594 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? | Originally Posted by Feba | BLM sword is only good for walking around and making people go "What the hell, a BLM with a sword?"
Kinda like a DRG | Fixed.
Sorry, I couldn't help it.  | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 07:05 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Pointy Stick Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,004 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 450
Thanked 359x in 221 Posts Gil: 16,089 Bank: 58,903 Total Gil: 74,993 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? Whats fun is to walk around in DRG AF and a shield. 
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Thanked 6x in 5 Posts Gil: 557 Bank: 8,564 Total Gil: 9,121 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? While I agree, with the stat bonus. But why give a job (PUP) that has nothing to throw a skill in it. (can't count "all jobs" as something) | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 07:47 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,576 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 114
Thanked 1,399x in 846 Posts Gil: 4,253 Bank: 223,341 Total Gil: 227,594 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? | Originally Posted by Dracovivi | | While I agree, with the stat bonus. But why give a job (PUP) that has nothing to throw a skill in it. (can't count "all jobs" as something) | Um, why not? You say they have nothing to throw except those that they can (All jobs). | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 03-27-2007, 09:05 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Likes to n00k Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 560 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 8
Thanked 22x in 17 Posts Gil: 3,402 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,402 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? | Originally Posted by Dracovivi | | While I agree, with the stat bonus. But why give a job (PUP) that has nothing to throw a skill in it. (can't count "all jobs" as something) | S#&ts and giggles? Boredom? Future expansion? Only SE knows for sure. Haggai
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Thanked 2x in 2 Posts Gil: 2,085 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,085 Donate | Re: Did S/E mess up? I (BST) can equip as many, if not more, hand-to-hand weapons as a PUP can, but I don't have any H2H skill. I wanna hit stuff (effectively) with my fists >D. BST66
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