02-14-2007, 03:41 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,597 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 776 Thanked 334x in 234 Posts Gil: 111,173 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 111,173 Donate | Martial Anelace Does it work with blue magic at all? Or is it just sword weapon skills?  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-14-2007, 03:49 PM | #2 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,997 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 259 Thanked 753x in 408 Posts Gil: 50,059 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 50,059 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace Considering it only works when mainhanded, and that it would effectively mean all your CA'd spells would have at least 100 TP, I seriously, seriously doubt it. It would be simple to test, though, if someone has one and BLU high enough to wield it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-14-2007, 03:53 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Ares's Cuirass Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,990 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 8 Thanked 31x in 25 Posts Gil: 1,428 Bank: 3,166 Total Gil: 4,594 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace I'd say no as Having a Hagun equiped does not effect Ranged WS so I doubt a Sword would effect Blue magic, if that makes sense :/ 75 Mnk Sam | 70 Drk | 40 Blm | 37 Nin Rng Thf War
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ZM:Complete CoP:Complete ToAU:27 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-15-2007, 09:46 AM | #4 (permalink) | | The Old Man Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Limbo Posts: 353 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 12 Thanked 15x in 11 Posts Gil: 5,821 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,821 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace I think this is right up there with Martial Knife... seems like a good idea, but its really just crap. 
75 BLU | THF | PLD | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-15-2007, 04:06 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,597 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 776 Thanked 334x in 234 Posts Gil: 111,173 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 111,173 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace Hagun doesn't work with Ranged WS because
A) There's a Bow for that already and
B) Safe to assume it's GKT WS only.
However, your blue spells are affected by TP and the accuracy of your main hand weapon... As I neither have the sword nor a high enough lv BLU, I'd greatly appreciate if anyone could take up the challenge and test it. On paper, it sounds like it would work. If it doesn't, then oh well. If it does, then WOO HOO! ^^b | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-17-2007, 04:29 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 2,545 Bank: 307 Total Gil: 2,852 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace I'm more curious if the Martial Anelace would only work when you have 0TP.
All of the Rare/EX weapons that drop from the various KSNMs work when you have less than 100% TP. Because your TP is reset to 0% at the time you use your WS is why they kick in during the WS.
Now I have no proof of this, but it would make sense if the Martial weapons work in the very same way. That it basically added 100% TP into the calculations for damage. So It would seem that anybody who can sub BLU could test this out.
Keep in mind this is just a theory, and if I had a Martial Anelace I'd go test it out right now.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-17-2007, 04:56 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,785 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 130 Thanked 311x in 198 Posts Gil: 1,111 Bank: 77,617 Total Gil: 78,728 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace I thought Martial weapons only gave TP bonus to weapon skills used with said weapons. And since blue magic doesn't actually use the weapon (only consumes TP) it wouldn't make sense if it recieved the bonus as well.
However, closing Light with a 200TP (+100) Savage Blade would do some nice damage. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-07-2008, 03:33 PM | #8 (permalink) | | /Facepalm Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 198 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 38 Thanked 18x in 16 Posts Gil: 290 Bank: 66,788 Total Gil: 67,079 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace I have been looking at this weapon and have a couple questions:
1) Does it work only with the second+ hits from multi hit WS? Example: Vorpal Blade, the +100 tp would kick in on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th hits since you would be at 0 tp?
2) TP is reset to 0% at the time you use your WS is why they kick in during the WS? (it would work for all hits but the first hit will have an extra 200tp, and every hit there after will have 100tp) PSN ID: Kelshan Completed: Folklore(Thanks TGM for the reconmendation), Timeshift, Lair, Orange Box, The Darkness, Resistance: Fall of Man, Heavenly Sword, and F.E.A.R. Currently Playing: Oblivion(on hold), Dark Sector | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-07-2008, 03:57 PM | #9 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,997 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 259 Thanked 753x in 408 Posts Gil: 50,059 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 50,059 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace | Quote: | | 1) Does it work only with the second+ hits from multi hit WS? Example: Vorpal Blade, the +100 tp would kick in on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th hits since you would be at 0 tp? | There's no easy way to test this. I highly doubt it anyways. | Quote: | | 2) TP is reset to 0% at the time you use your WS is why they kick in during the WS? (it would work for all hits but the first hit will have an extra 200tp, and every hit there after will have 100tp) | No offense meant to you or tdh but I find that to be silly. It makes more sense for it to add 100 TP to your total, check your total and then use it/set it to 0. Why would it add 100 after your TP was "used" towards the WS? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-08-2008, 06:32 AM | #10 (permalink) | | /Facepalm Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 198 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 38 Thanked 18x in 16 Posts Gil: 290 Bank: 66,788 Total Gil: 67,079 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace Originally Posted by Armando | There's no easy way to test this. I highly doubt it anyways.
No offense meant to you or tdh but I find that to be silly. It makes more sense for it to add 100 TP to your total, check your total and then use it/set it to 0. Why would it add 100 after your TP was "used" towards the WS? | None taken. Can't take offense when you are asking about someone else's theory. I just trying to understand how this weapon works. I read a few post which people say it just adds 100tp to your weapon skill. I have read other post which said you need < 100 tp for the tp bonus to activate. Anyone know the requirements it take to cause the tp bonus to activate? PSN ID: Kelshan Completed: Folklore(Thanks TGM for the reconmendation), Timeshift, Lair, Orange Box, The Darkness, Resistance: Fall of Man, Heavenly Sword, and F.E.A.R. Currently Playing: Oblivion(on hold), Dark Sector | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-08-2008, 06:39 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Altanaの戦士 Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 2,785 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 130 Thanked 311x in 198 Posts Gil: 1,111 Bank: 77,617 Total Gil: 78,728 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace You need 100TP because the weapon only gives the TP bonus to the Weapon skill, not to you, so you still need to get at least 100TP to use a WS.
What the weapon does is add 100TP to your current TP when calculating the WS' effect.
So if you use a WS with 100TP it will do the dmg/effect it would do at 200TP, if you have 200TP it will pretend you have 300TP and if you have 250TP it will still be 300TP effect as it will never go over 300.
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That whole slew of weapons are what you're thinking of. They only activate with under 100% tp or when you WS (Because your WS wipes you to 0 before it's actually performed, apparently).
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Women = Evil | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-08-2008, 04:37 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Lurker Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 246 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 26x in 13 Posts Gil: 7,785 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 7,785 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace Replying old statement, I know. Originally Posted by Kaickul | | I think this is right up there with Martial Knife... seems like a good idea, but its really just crap. | Vorpal Blade is multi-hit WS with critical hit TP mod, so it may not be so crap before you get perdu hanger in your hand. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-08-2008, 07:53 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,597 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 776 Thanked 334x in 234 Posts Gil: 111,173 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 111,173 Donate | Re: Martial Anelace Originally Posted by VZX | | Vorpal Blade is multi-hit WS with critical hit TP mod, so it may not be so crap before you get dissector in your hand. |
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