[LadyPeorth]

Demon Killer and Dragon Killer might be possible if it is Class Attack type magic (like Wild Oats and Sprout Smack are both Offensive abilities).

If however they must be physical attacks...then no as each only has 1 physical attack:

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Dragons

[Atma]

The problem is that while there are multiple learnable Vermin, Beast, etc. attacks, there is only, to my knowledge so far, 1 demon learnable and 0 dragon learnable abilities.

[Taskmage]

Radiant Breath is learned from Wyverns. Don't know of a second one. There aren't many types of dragons.

Eyes On Me, Frightful Roar, and Hecatomb Wave all come from Demon type mobs.

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Oh, but they have to be physical? Yeah, impossible then.

[Caspian]

Wonder if any of the big ones from the HNM's are learnable? Spike Flail for the win? I know 10,000 needles isn't.

[Icemage]

None of the HNM-specific abilities are learnable at this time - there's a complete list floating around someplace. I thought the most interesting ones offensively were Jettatura (Terror), 1000 Needles, and Self-Destruct.


Icemage

[LadyPeorth]

Originally Posted by Taskmage

Radiant Breath is learned from Wyverns. Don't know of a second one. There aren't many types of dragons.

Eyes On Me, Frightful Roar, and Hecatomb Wave all come from Demon type mobs.

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Oh, but they have to be physical? Yeah, impossible then.

It's not been determined if they need to be physical or not.

Body Slam is learned from Dragon type monsters (Shadow Dragon/Ash Dragon)

HNM (Faffy, Adamantoise, Behemoth) do not have moves because you cannot simply find them enough. Unless you do a BC99-a-thon...the chances of you getting the pull, seeing the move you want, and it dying are all very low.

[Taskmage]

Not to mention that according to current theory, you would have to stay alive from the time it used to move to the time it died.

[Karinya]

Well, given how long the fights are, the chance of seeing the move is practically 100%. The chance of learning it wouldn't be any worse than the drop rate of any particular abjuration... or the Black Belt pieces. And both of those have to outclaim a dozen other LSes too.

I'm kinda surprised they *didn't* have them as exactly that kind of "prestige" accomplishment (and because boss-only blue magics are practically a tradition). But maybe they're being added in a couple months.

You probably couldn't learn them from the KS99s - they have the "no experience" flag. The Adamantoise one could be learned from Genbu, though, and the Wyrm one from any of the CoP wyrms in addition to Faf/Nid.

Meteor would probably have even higher MP cost and casting time than 1000 needles, making it almost totally impractical, but who wouldn't love to have it anyway?

If nothing else, it could lead to enough public pressure to finally get SE to reform the pop system for those mobs. It's stayed the same while the population of 70+ players increased 100-fold.

[LadyPeorth]

Originally Posted by Karinya

Well, given how long the fights are, the chance of seeing the move is practically 100%. The chance of learning it wouldn't be any worse than the drop rate of any particular abjuration... or the Black Belt pieces. And both of those have to outclaim a dozen other LSes too.

I'm kinda surprised they *didn't* have them as exactly that kind of "prestige" accomplishment (and because boss-only blue magics are practically a tradition). But maybe they're being added in a couple months.

You probably couldn't learn them from the KS99s - they have the "no experience" flag. The Adamantoise one could be learned from Genbu, though, and the Wyrm one from any of the CoP wyrms in addition to Faf/Nid.

Meteor would probably have even higher MP cost and casting time than 1000 needles, making it almost totally impractical, but who wouldn't love to have it anyway?

If nothing else, it could lead to enough public pressure to finally get SE to reform the pop system for those mobs. It's stayed the same while the population of 70+ players increased 100-fold.

Think about it. Most of the time, the three kings on servers are dominated by paticular LSes. Not only do they want the items now, but then they'd also wanna make sure all their BLU get the move. Likewise, you'll hafta pay upwards of 30m gil to get into the party and having a "chance" of learning it. Even if it uses the move 3 times, you still might not learn it.

Another reason is the sheer power of the moves they possess. Thunderbolt, Spike Flail, ??? Wing, Turtle Stomp, and of course many others. Most of those moves would devestating if someone had them. Could you imagine going to top of Boyahd tree, pulling everything with a BRD, then having 5 BLUs all use Spike Flail?

I'm thankfully glad that none of the three kings have BLU magic attunded to them. It'd make the BLU job that much harder. Could you imagine seeing "Need Spike Flail" or "Meteor ONLY/ONRY"?

[locus]

Updated with info:
Clear mind 2: Soporific + Poison Breath + Venom shell + Awful Eye

[Omni]

how do you tell its clear mind II? i mean, it doesnt add it twice in the job traits list right?

[locus]

Ctrl+H is a wonderful way of testing clear mind.

[massaranger]

Originally Posted by Omni-Ragnarok

how do you tell its clear mind II? i mean, it doesnt add it twice in the job traits list right?

well i would think if there are 2 sets of skills that do clear mind that would = clear mind 2

[Macht]

Originally Posted by massaranger

well i would think if there are 2 sets of skills that do clear mind that would = clear mind 2

you can tell which clear mind is in effect by how much you get back on the first rest heal tick. No clear mind present and on the first rest heal tick you'll recover 10 mp, clear mind 1 you'll recover 15mp on first tick, clear mind 2 (mind getting fuzzy not much of a mage) I think it gives back 18mp, clear mind 3 is 21mp(?), and so on...

But only measure to what the first rest tick gives because rest ticks increase from the previous by 1 point per tick. So if you start of with 10 mp rest tick on the 11th rest tick (uninterrupted) you'll get 21mp, but with clear mind 3 on the first rest tick you get 21mp and 11 ticks later it would be 32mp.

[Muu Yi]

Guys, Mystery Tour has a running list of the known Spell Combinations, Clear Mind II is listed even, wow. :D

http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.j...9blu-combo.htm

Go go mysterytour, get your Blue Magic fix!