03-27-2007, 12:50 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 99 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,610 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,610 Donate | How much? Just take a wager or if you know around how much it will cost from 0-100 or even 57-100
I am 57 and have spent around 5,000,000 so far. How much would you guess i'd need? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-27-2007, 01:01 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,512 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,348x in 820 Posts Gil: 5,820 Bank: 148,676 Total Gil: 154,496 Donate | Re: How much? Lots.
It will depend on what you skill up on, what the materials cost, what you farm or mine up, and what the results sell for. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-27-2007, 01:38 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Vault Dweller Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 491 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 83 Thanked 81x in 49 Posts Gil: 1,671 Bank: 30,387 Total Gil: 32,058 Donate | Re: How much? Questions like these are very hard to answer. 1)The market changes constantly. What provided profit and skill today may not tomorrow. 2)I don't know you - are you the type to go for the fastest route to 100 regardless of cost, or do you like to take the longer, cheaper route?
If you have spent 5 mil just to get to 57... that's a lot. I got to the lower 50's for under 1 mil on my old character.
It's just too hard to say. I could throw a figure out there, but what meaning would it have? Myaku of Garuda Signature courtesy of Selphiie the Enchantress LS: CoVD / GiggleSnorts Manthra - THF/Crafter 63 THF | 43 WHM | 37 WAR | 37 NIN | 25 SMN | 24 PLD | 20 MNK | 20 BLM | All others 10 San d'Oria Rank 6 (6-1) | RotZ 04 | CoP 4-2 | ToAU 12 | WotG 02 Leathercraft 63+1 | Alchemy 60 | Cooking 60 | Woodworking 60 | Smithing 60 | Goldsmithing 35 | Clothcraft 5 | Fishing 1 | Chocobo Digging: Recruit | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-27-2007, 02:17 PM | #4 (permalink) | | ONE LIFE Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,797 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,675 Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts Gil: 22,422 Bank: 403,109 Total Gil: 425,530 Donate | Re: How much? leveling a craft to 100 is almost always an "If you have to ask, it's too much" thing.
Honestly, you're the only one that can make that evaluation, based on your crafting experience and (I hope) knowledge of your server's economy, particularly of your trade. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-27-2007, 03:35 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 99 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,610 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,610 Donate | Re: How much? lol was just asking for an estimate.
and you said 50 with under 1mill? Thats nuts... wish i had known what you must have. darksteel ingots are going for 180k per stack on fenrir | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-27-2007, 04:02 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 122 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 12 Thanked 9x in 7 Posts Gil: 623 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 623 Donate | Re: How much? So...buy the ore & make the ingots yourself. The ores are going for 10k according to FFXIAH.com. That's 120k/stack. Or mine them yourself. They're not exactly common, but if nothing else you can craft the junk ores you find into ingots to sell. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-27-2007, 06:21 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 99 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 3,610 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 3,610 Donate | Re: How much? K, thanks ^^ I found making the level 53 (def+4) sam/nin/mnk item is pretty good exp. Thank you all for the help. Hopefully i will become 100 one day | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-27-2007, 10:34 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,575 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 152 Thanked 179x in 117 Posts Gil: 13,100 Bank: 71,148 Total Gil: 84,248 Donate | Re: How much? Is this estimate notwithstanding subcrafts you'll obviously want such as Leathercraft, Woodworking, and possibly Goldsmithing and even Bonecraft?
Smithing is singular the most interdependent craft and I would say that a good smith spends more money and time on his career than even a Goldsmith because of this--Goldsmithing, while expensive, has very little entanglement with other crafts at least as a necessity to it's primary use--making Jewelry.
So far as I have gone in Smithing, I have spent very little--probably somewhere around 50k to 29. I try to stick to supplies that other people will use rather than manufacturing end product. 5 million seems like a lot for such a low level as 54. Of course, if you're trying to move fast, you'll inevitably spend a lot. I've done Alchemy at a rather relaxed pace and have levelled other crafts as well to give access to some of the more profitable (or less expensive) syntheses along the way. From the looks of it, there are quite a good variety of profitable syntheses in the 60s and beyond, but unfortunately most are durable goods which cannot be mass produced without seriously harming their market (or without great expense).
Basically, your speed is a great factor in the cost of your training as well as subcraft access which gives you wider variety in Smithing, but has it's own costs associated with it.
From 60-70 you'll be running somewhere along 24-36 syntheses per point and from 70-100 at around 36-48. So if you stick to consumables when possible that looks like (this is without checking AH for sale rates and costs):
DST Boltheads (62)
DST Chain (63) Huge durable goods space...
Karimata Arrowheads (79) Not a bad space, but not much to make either
Adaman Sheet (85) Bit of a small span, the rather popular Celata is here
Adaman Ingot (90) Everything up here looks like it hurts. Last edited by Sabaron : 03-27-2007 at 11:00 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-28-2007, 06:18 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,554 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 97 Thanked 275x in 163 Posts Gil: 7,041 Bank: 41,461 Total Gil: 48,502 Donate | Re: How much? Originally Posted by Blaez | | I am 57 and have spent around 5,000,000 so far. How much would you guess i'd need? | That's how much you "spent"? What about the amount of gil you've gotten back? You have made a profit along the way on certain recipes, right?
When I took Blacksmithing from 0 to 60 on two chars, I'm quite sure I turned a profit overall both times. And I'm not a "I farm all my own materials" crafter, nor am I a "I don't skill up unless I can do it for profit" crafter either. I eat small losses in short stretches provided I can make up for it later.
I you really did go into the hole 5 mil to get Blacksmithing to 57, all I can say is {That's too bad.} Lyonheart
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