10-26-2005, 02:06 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 33 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,761 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,761 Donate | smithing san d' oria vs. bastok ive been wondering would it be better to raise smithing skills in san d' oria or bastok im thinking its easyer to get ores in bastok but the leather and wood working guilds in bastok would help out alot, post your opinion | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-13-2005, 10:02 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 131 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 131 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok I think the woodworking guild is in Sandy. Im not sure which personally to suggest, but i know that you can get advanced synth support at the one in sandy.
I believe u get the same ores in the guilds at basty and sandy, so im not sure if it really matters. Both gets just as busy aswell. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-15-2005, 12:26 PM | #3 (permalink) | | go cry emo kid Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 684 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 100 Thanked 39x in 32 Posts Gil: 4,192 Bank: 15,635 Total Gil: 19,827 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok You can get more ores at Bastok, but all the ores you need for the early levels are at the Blacksmith's guild...so I'd think staying in Sandy first would be easier, plus like you said, there Woodworking and Leatherworking guilds are there, so that would make it a ton easier too | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-04-2006, 03:34 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 239 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 239 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok I would choose sandy over bastok because they have ores too. Just need to head over to the Airship guild for some iron and copper. The plus with that is no waiting for buying multiples. Also, Sandy has the leather belt npc and that is just <3. Do not forget sandy has no nick names like asstok or lastok. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-04-2006, 04:36 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 75 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 75 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok I've been to the one in Sandy, I don't really see a difference. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-05-2006, 11:55 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 401 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 401 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok sandy is cheaper most of the time | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-05-2006, 12:02 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Shikaree N Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 689 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 34 Thanked 41x in 26 Posts Gil: 7,129 Bank: 20,313 Total Gil: 27,442 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok | Originally Posted by Spicey | | I would choose sandy over bastok because they have ores too. Just need to head over to the Airship guild for some iron and copper. The plus with that is no waiting for buying multiples. Also, Sandy has the leather belt npc and that is just <3. Do not forget sandy has no nick names like asstok or lastok. | Unless Sandy is 2nd place or above in the conquest rankings you get no ore from the airship ports. All airship ports carry iron and copper if their nation is 2nd place or higher in the conquest rankings, so you could do the same thing in Bastok or even Windurst.
You can also get mythril ore from airship ports if that nation is in first place and you're a citizen of that nation. Either way, Airship ports are a nice resource that lots of people overlook. But they don't do you any good unless you're rank 5 with an Airship pass. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-06-2006, 12:03 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hinckley, MN Posts: 1 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 131 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 131 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok I do almost all of my GP/skillup synthing in Bastok. I'm just more comfortable there I guess. Plus I mined zeruhn mines waaay back when when I started smithing; then bastok was the place to go. Not too much difference in the items, and same synth support both places. I do all of my desynthing absolutely exclusively in Sandy. Leather belt and Claymore NPC sellers are there. That's about it.  Bastok; Sylph. Rank 6 Male Hume
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Unless I want to make some gil, I'll hop over to Bastok and work a little on cheap Goldsmith synths for a little extra on the side. But I get bored a lot easier there.  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-08-2006, 05:23 PM | #10 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 25,922 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 25,922 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok When you're skilling up you'll find yourself buying out all ores sometimes. And the price will raise a lot the next day you try to buy the same ore. For this reason I think it's best to move between the 2 place back and forth. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
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Alchemy: 80, Bonecraft: 52, Clothcraft: 52, Cooking: 40, Fishing: 2, Goldsmithing: 41, Leathercraft: 53, Smithing: 42, Woodworking: 60 | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 05-12-2006, 01:20 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 119 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 443 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 443 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok I prefer bastok, just as its the city i started in and im more famliiar with it. I did at one point take my mule out to sandy though and level my leather, wood and some smithing while i was there.
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With Kutu around no alcohol is safe. Hide ya beer! | www.konohals.eu - Endgame EU ls, bahamut server | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-02-2006, 10:20 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 17 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 17 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok Sandy is best as I often find the ores cheaper there. Knowledge is power. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-02-2006, 11:16 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,575 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 152 Thanked 179x in 117 Posts Gil: 13,100 Bank: 71,148 Total Gil: 84,248 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok Originally Posted by Layzan | | Sandy is best as I often find the ores cheaper there. | This is not necessarily true. Guild prices for both guilds are set by the number of people using the guild at one time. Giving this advice may cause people to flock to sandy to Smith thus raising prices there and lowering prices in Bastok and making the statement untrue.
I recommend that you use both guilds for their various strengths. If you have Warp and/or Airship, travel between them is easy and if you don't, Tele-Dem/Chocobo and Tele-Holla/Chocobo is just as fast a lot of the time anyway (it just happens to be 2-4x as expensive and slower if the boat time is below a certain level).
Why use Bastok?
If you are using materials containing Copper, Bastok is the place to go. If the Smithing Guild runs out of copper before the end of the day, you can get more from the Goldsmith's Guild without going to the AH. If, however, you have Airship access, this is not beneficial since you can purchase Copper Ores (and Iron as well) from the Airship Dock Merchants.
If you are levelling a low-level job, once your smithing gets within Iron Ingot range, you can use the Zeruhn mines to make money and gain levels at the same time.
If you are making a product which requires materials from the Goldsmithing or Alchemy Guilds (Brass, Glass Fiber, etc.), you might be able to find a better supply in Bastok where people are skilling up on it.
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If you are making a product which requires materials from the Woodcrafting or Leather Guilds you might be able to find a better supply in San d'Oria where people are skilling up on it.
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Certain items (lumber especially) are also more readily available in the town controlling the region that produces the log (e.g. Norvallen) and you can more easily make your own lumber in this town than in the others--note that a stop in Windurst might not be a bad choice if you need these types of items.
Also, do not discount the value of the Mhaura Smithing Guild! It is out of the way, and there is no nearby delivery or auction house, so if you get your hands on a Kolshushu OP Warp, you can go there quickly from your hometown to exploit it's lower prices and purchase (possibly cheap) ingots there. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 11-02-2006, 11:17 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,575 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 152 Thanked 179x in 117 Posts Gil: 13,100 Bank: 71,148 Total Gil: 84,248 Donate | Re: smithing san d' oria vs. bastok [EDIT: Double Posted... Must've clicked a wrong button] | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 09:52 AM. | | |