[Redwall]

Wow this is a great guide thanks.
What are the benefits of becoming a crafter though if you lose so much money on it?

[Andvari]

Originally Posted by Redwall

Wow this is a great guide thanks.
What are the benefits of becoming a crafter though if you lose so much money on it?

This is becoming my new motto, I've said it so much lately to LS members and friends. So I will give it what it derserves and put it in bold lol:

You have to spend gil, to make gil.

basically what I mean by this is, before you can start gaining great ammounts of gil from a craft, you have to put alot of gil into it first. I've seen people say how worthless crafts are because they cost too much to level. Well just ask anyone 60+ in any craft and they will tell you a different story. I'm currently Woodworking 59 (didn't push to 60 because the arrows I make capped at 59 lol) and as much as I moan about economy and sometimes the Scorpion Arrows I make take more than a day to sell because of underpricers. I really do make good money compared to what I used to.

The benefits of becoming a crafter in my opinion, is becoming a crafter abover level 60 lol.. stick at it guys and you will soon see the benefits.

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and to return to the reason i came to this post, even thought the guide (0-55) was written about 2 and a half years ago, I'd like to thank the writer I am soon to start Smithing and this is by far the best one I have seen and I will definately be using it

[Susurrus]

Are there any alternatives to darksteel picks at 67 now? It may have been profitable at the time of this guide but now it is waaaay expensive....

[yps_128]

please teach me how to play n how to start this game

[Lucky and Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Susurrus

Are there any alternatives to darksteel picks at 67 now? It may have been profitable at the time of this guide but now it is waaaay expensive....

Maybe if you can cut the lumber and mine the ore you might get a little profet. I'm no where near that lv yet so I really don;t know.

[Leviel]

Oh, In the first post you said you had a report of bronze scales getting someone to skill 10? I did it as well. It was a little slow for 9-10 but 7 and 8 went by fast.

[Lucky and Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by DM337

I don't know if this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but Tin Ingots can be made as early as Lv. 6. (with advanced image support, had a good number of failures at Lv. 6, but still some skill ups) I haven't gotten much farther than that, as I've only been making ingots out of the tin I personally mine up, but its taken me up to Lv. 7, and I'm not breaking the synth as much as I used to.

Lv 6???

Cool.

If thats the case. I can stop makeing Bronze In gots sooner and use the Copper ore for Copper Ingots.

[Talisman]

Hi there
I read this thread and found it very useful, but when I tried to put it into practise things just really didn't happen
I'm just starting out, my smithing level is a whopping 0 and my character's level has just reached a benchmark lvl 10 lol
Basically I had signet cast on me and went grinding for crystals, after a couple of hours I had a stack of fire, water and earth crystals. The water and earth went on the AH no problem and I made a bit of money, then went trundling off the the Bastok smith guild to buy my ingredients. After synthesising 12 bronze ingots and using all my fire crystals in the process my smithing level had gone up 0.1 in total.
Am I doing something wrong, or is this really how long it's going to take? Not sure it's worth it, might as well sell my crystals on the AH and make a nice profit.
Any (further) advice would be very appreciated
Gotta go, a Quadav is poking me with a sword :/

[LyonheartLakshmi]

Originally Posted by Talisman

I'm just starting out, my smithing level is a whopping 0.... After synthesising 12 bronze ingots and using all my fire crystals in the process my smithing level had gone up 0.1 in total.
Am I doing something wrong, or is this really how long it's going to take?

You were just unlucky. From level 0 to 50, you will average around 0.6~0.8 skill ups per dozen attempts. If you want to push for higher skill up rates, try to do your skill up sessions during...

1. New Moon
2. A day of the week where your crystal is week to the element of the day
3. or Darksday

On a rare occasion, I've gotten as much as 1.3 skill levels on a dozen attempts. But those get balanced by the bad runs, like the one you had.

[Hilaut]

I just hit lvl7 doing bronze scales, so it is possible. I will reply again when I cap on Scales.

[Tomtough]

hey, ummm I LOVE THIS GUIDE! a couple of things...

level 13 smithing, already making profit w/ scale mail, here on fenrir mats are about 2k per synth and sell in san d'Oria for 5k ^^

tin ingots are used for ALCHEMY, heres a link to a detailed page on them:
Tin Ingot - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

and lastly, would u plz edit this so all of ur stuff for synths and lvl ranges is in first post? i dont want to sift throo entire thread to find it.