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Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 233 Bank: 12,048 Total Gil: 12,281 Donate  | This may be a glitch or nerf. Ok I have found this out, when I cast stone 2 It takes 137 damage off of a mob... but when I cast it
again it takes 2 damage off of it. Is this how it should be? or is this an game error? |  | ::Quote Selected::  | | | 04-22-2008, 07:58 AM | #2 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,622 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 174
Thanked 641x in 342 Posts Gil: 35,359 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 35,359 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. Your INT or the mob's INT must be changing between casts, or you're nuking a NM. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 04-22-2008, 08:46 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Final Fantasy 11 Posts: 57 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 65
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 233 Bank: 12,048 Total Gil: 12,281 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. Oh I see maybe I was not paying attention to the buff that I was given. this might be it. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-11-2008, 06:41 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 53 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 1
Thanked 4x in 4 Posts Gil: 598 Bank: 6,845 Total Gil: 7,443 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. Or the mob just resisted more so on the second cast. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-11-2008, 07:44 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,534 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 133
Thanked 165x in 107 Posts Gil: 5,037 Bank: 42,517 Total Gil: 47,554 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. A resist would cut the damage by a fraction (e.g. 1/2), not just subtract 2. Something changed to cause either MAB or base damage to decrease or you're encountering NM escalating elemental resistance. Calculating Magic Damage - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki
Two damage sounds a lot like removing an INT ring... | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-11-2008, 08:37 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Necro Slayer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,821 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 78
Thanked 325x in 199 Posts Gil: 6,970 Bank: 48,057 Total Gil: 55,027 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. Originally Posted by Bolla  | Ok I have found this out, when I cast stone 2 It takes 137 damage off of a mob... but when I cast it
again it takes 2 damage off of it. Is this how it should be? or is this an game error? | Welcome to every blm's frustration. LOL  | Originally Posted by WishMaster3K | | The vagina is a magical object. | | Originally Posted by Balfree | | AND, running the game at 2024x2024 resolution, with forced AA and AF... o boy, you can even see that galka's pubes. | | Originally Posted by Malevolent | | But what i learned is that devout catholics CANNOT and WILL NOT take a friggin joke. Also, trying to explain a joke to them is like farting in a revolving door. | | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | FFXIOnline.com ... "Where women are not constantly begged to show tits or GTFO!" | | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-11-2008, 10:01 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Sexy Taru RDM Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 494 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood:  Thanks: 23
Thanked 34x in 29 Posts Gil: 23,754 Bank: 234 Total Gil: 23,988 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. at least you can break 100 with stone 2 lol Id say you just hit a resist, btw happy mothers day tgm Melee RDM since /04
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Thanked 165x in 107 Posts Gil: 5,037 Bank: 42,517 Total Gil: 47,554 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. | Originally Posted by MrMageo | | at least you can break 100 with stone 2 lol Id say you just hit a resist, btw happy mothers day tgm | A resist proper fractions the damage by a power of two (1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16). The variation could be one of those "minor forces" that occur in Vana'diel or a change in gear. The base damage on Stone II is 78 so it's not unbelievable that it could break 100 damage very easily considering BLM gets a 20% MAB at 10 (24% at 30).
I assumed (though perhaps unwarrantedly) that since he's hitting 137 consistently and following up with 135 consistently that it's some sort of a statistically definable trend. However, the fact that it exists in the first place indicates some sort of fluctuation even if the fluctuation is some sort of random factor (that I'm not aware of). Barring randomness, there must be a change in the system. I don't know if normal mobs get some form of increasing resistance like NMs do, I haven't done a lot of study on nuking. As a RDM, I do nuke occasionally, but if I do it continually, I run out of MP and people get mad at me. If I'm on my own, I get mad at me for wasting MP when I could have been DoTing and/or meleeing.  | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-11-2008, 02:31 PM | #9 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,141 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9
Thanked 89x in 71 Posts Gil: 14,889 Bank: 20,568 Total Gil: 35,457 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. Either you changed gear, or the mob is a higher level than the last one. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-11-2008, 06:16 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Necro Slayer Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,821 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 78
Thanked 325x in 199 Posts Gil: 6,970 Bank: 48,057 Total Gil: 55,027 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. | Originally Posted by MrMageo | | at least you can break 100 with stone 2 lol Id say you just hit a resist, btw happy mothers day tgm | Tyvm Mr. Mageo ^^ | Originally Posted by WishMaster3K | | The vagina is a magical object. | | Originally Posted by Balfree | | AND, running the game at 2024x2024 resolution, with forced AA and AF... o boy, you can even see that galka's pubes. | | Originally Posted by Malevolent | | But what i learned is that devout catholics CANNOT and WILL NOT take a friggin joke. Also, trying to explain a joke to them is like farting in a revolving door. | | Originally Posted by Aksannyi | | FFXIOnline.com ... "Where women are not constantly begged to show tits or GTFO!" | | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-11-2008, 08:58 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 335 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9
Thanked 46x in 30 Posts Gil: 1,310 Bank: 17,156 Total Gil: 18,466 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. I think the OP just hit an unreal resist ... not from 137 damage to 135, but from 137 damage to 2. That's about a 1/64 resist... | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-12-2008, 06:09 AM | #12 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,141 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9
Thanked 89x in 71 Posts Gil: 14,889 Bank: 20,568 Total Gil: 35,457 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. | Originally Posted by Nuriko | | I think the OP just hit an unreal resist ... not from 137 damage to 135, but from 137 damage to 2. That's about a 1/64 resist... | Unlikely.... The next mob that he fought probably had a little bit higher intelligence then the last. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-12-2008, 07:20 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,416 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 102
Thanked 1,277x in 774 Posts Gil: 2,413 Bank: 79,083 Total Gil: 81,496 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. | Originally Posted by Nuriko | | I think the OP just hit an unreal resist ... not from 137 damage to 135, but from 137 damage to 2. That's about a 1/64 resist... | | Originally Posted by Mog | | Unlikely.... The next mob that he fought probably had a little bit higher intelligence then the last. | Impossible to say since the OP was not kind enough to give any details at all about what he was fighting. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-12-2008, 08:00 AM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Final Fantasy 11 Posts: 57 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 65
Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 233 Bank: 12,048 Total Gil: 12,281 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. | Originally Posted by Mhurron | | Impossible to say since the OP was not kind enough to give any details at all about what she was fighting. | I'm sorry for not giving out more info, The mob I was fighting was Goblin Digger in Yuhtunga Jungle. A party of 6 I cast stone 2 the goblin came after me, the warrior provoked it. I casted it again (unwise thing to do might get killed and kicked from party)
thats when it happend. | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | 05-12-2008, 09:29 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Pink Mage Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bastok/Illinois Posts: 1,534 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 133
Thanked 165x in 107 Posts Gil: 5,037 Bank: 42,517 Total Gil: 47,554 Donate | Re: This may be a glitch or nerf. | Originally Posted by Nuriko | | I think the OP just hit an unreal resist ... not from 137 damage to 135, but from 137 damage to 2. That's about a 1/64 resist... | This is also not how it works. I'll explain using equations.
There are different tiers of resistance call them n.
The lowest tier is 0, which means not resisted. The highest tier is 4.
Damage from a resisted spell is calculated as follows:
(Modified Damage) / (2 ^ n).
For example, if the OP's spell has a Modified Damage of 137, and it was resisted at tier 1:
137 / (2 ^ 1) = 137/2 = 68.5 damage
At tier 4 resist it would be:
137 / (2 ^ 4) = 137 / 16 = 8.6 damage | | | ::Quote Selected:: | |
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