12-11-2007, 10:41 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Posts: 16 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,024 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,024 Donate | BLM to SMN Im a black mage lvl 17 at the moment and was wondering if i can become summoner as second job? and if so at what lvl can i do so?
and im looking for new spells but can only find two places so far....Sandy and Selbina both at ports...and they both have different blm spells....is there more places? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-11-2007, 10:45 AM | #2 (permalink) | | X's General FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 2,619 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 171 Thanked 638x in 341 Posts Gil: 34,880 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 34,880 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN Somepage and FFXIclopedia are your friends.
You need to be Lv.30 to unlock extra jobs, and SMN isn't a very good sub job for BLM in general (but feel free to level it up as a main job if you want.)
For BLM sub jobs you'll primarily want WHM, though levelling up RDM as well is a good idea. Last edited by Armando : 12-11-2007 at 11:06 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Armando for above post: | | | 12-11-2007, 10:46 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: London Posts: 16 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 1,024 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,024 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN is it possible to then just become smn as main job...even though im blm at the moment? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-11-2007, 10:50 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,758 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 76 Thanked 191x in 143 Posts Gil: 19,933 Bank: 38,935 Total Gil: 58,868 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN Once you get any job to 30 you can unlock the other 'advanced' jobs. At any time in the game you can switch between any and every job you want without penalty. "I have a forebrain, my ability to abstract thoughts allow for all kinds of things" - Red Mage 8-Bit theater | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Ziero for above post: | | | 12-11-2007, 10:52 AM | #6 (permalink) | | The dodo's conundrum Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,529 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 110 Thanked 297x in 199 Posts Gil: 367 Bank: 30,180 Total Gil: 30,547 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN It doesn't matter what job you are now. Once you unlock a job (or, for the starting 6, right from the start), you can switch to it any time you like.
You're probably not going to get very far as either BLM/SMN or SMN/BLM, though; you'll eventually end up leveling WHM (which you'd end up doing for BLM, too). Somepage is not your friend, by the way. Somepage is, but he's that friend that's been telling you the same stories and talking about the same things for like a year now; they're great stories, but you've heard them so many times. Ellipses on Fenrir There is no rush. If you're not willing to take your time, don't be surprised when no one wants to give you much of theirs.
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. . . | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Ellipses for above post: | | | 12-11-2007, 12:22 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Auburn, ME Posts: 384 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 168 Thanked 114x in 67 Posts Gil: 16,076 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 16,076 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN At 18, you can unlock subjob ability. I suggest levelling WHM as your sub in the short term. RDM will also be handy as you advance; BLM/RDM stops being disadvantagous over BLM/WHM at BLM28/RDM14 and its true advantages start to materialize at BLM30/RDM15, though /WHM will remain handy if a party reeeaaally needs you to backup heal.
As mentioned, the extra jobs can be quested starting at level 30. /WHM will become handy again when you unlock SMN, as unfortunately most people don't invite summoners to actually summon, but to main heal through the application of cures from /WHM. (Yes, the job has needed retooling for a long time.) SMN/BLM unfortunately doesn't work, as BLM's Magic Attack Bonus doesn't apply to your avatars' nukes, and half-levelled Elemental Magic equals entirely too many resists and thus too little damage to be remotely worth the MP spent on your own nukes.
However, don't give up hope yet. There is now, at last, a possible subjob for SMN other than /WHM: /SCH. You'll need the new Wings of the Goddess expansion pack to unlock it, but it'll let you do three things /WHM won't. One, as a healer you'll be even more efficient as SMN/SCH in the long run, as Light Arts reduces the MP cost of white magic spells. (Unfortunately, due to SE being stupid and making SCH get Cure II really late, the "long run" doesn't start until SMN34/SCH17.) Two, Dark Arts will give you Elemental Magic skill at a B ranking in your main job, so you can actually throw out your own nukes to small but potentially worthwhile effect between summons. Third, SCH does eventually gain Aspir, and thanks to Dark Arts (which also grants a B in Dark Magic) you can actually use it effectively.
As for BLM/SMN, there are worse combinations. Its main advantage is in MP thanks to SMN having the most and eventually getting Auto Refresh. However, it has the significant disadantage of providing very little ability to go into a support role if the party needs it and no significant ability to improve your damaging capability due to half-levelled summons being even more underpowered than main-level ones. SCH has become the better choice of sub for BLM for the MP-conscious, though it's only useful in party situations thanks to a lack of strong defensive spells. -- Pteryx Last edited by Pteryx : 12-11-2007 at 12:44 PM. Reason: Typos | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-11-2007, 12:56 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Pyro-Medic Super Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,252 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 164 Thanked 89x in 55 Posts Gil: 11,430 Bank: 20,208 Total Gil: 31,638 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN Level blm to 18.
Get sub job.
Level white mage to 37.
Get summoner.
Level Summoner till you get sick of it.
Well that's how I would have done it, had I known it should have been done that way. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-11-2007, 03:57 PM | #9 (permalink) | | 塊魂 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Behind you. Posts: 799 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 47 Thanked 28x in 17 Posts Gil: 7,565 Bank: 1,477 Total Gil: 9,042 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN Originally Posted by Omniblast | Level blm to 18.
Get sub job.
Level white mage to 37.
Get summoner.
Level Summoner till you get sick of it.
Well that's how I would have done it, had I known it should have been done that way. |
Seconded. The best way to do it in my opinion.  
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Assault: ★Captain★ | Goddess: In the Name of the Father | Campaign: Brass Wings of Service | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-03-2008, 01:33 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Maat Masher Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 19 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 2 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 452 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 452 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN Sub whatever you want, it's your game. /whm is going yo get you party invites, but whm is boring as hell. Hey what do I know I'm just sayin, I know a girl who got to 75 as whm/thf thf/whm, one of the happiest FFXI players I ever met. Be careful whose advice you buy But be patient with those who give it to you. Advice is a form of nostalgia dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts, and reselling it for more than it's worth. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-03-2008, 01:51 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Sticky Paws Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,860 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 235 Thanked 604x in 393 Posts Gil: 8,550 Bank: 79,407 Total Gil: 87,957 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN Originally Posted by Krut | | I know a girl who got to 75 as whm/thf thf/whm, one of the happiest FFXI players I ever met. | ...
Is Anna ... your heroine, by any chance?  “ I’m in pain, but I’m happy.”
“ It hurts, but I can smile.”
“ That’s why I can tell you from the depths of my being…” | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-03-2008, 03:49 AM | #12 (permalink) | | The boy that never levels Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham England Posts: 115 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 135 Thanked 12x in 9 Posts Gil: 5,537 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 5,537 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN I'm always hearing people talk of Anna but I've never stumbled upon her posts.
Are her posts here in these threads ?
I'd love to read her posts I wanna see a Mithra girlband "Atomic Kitten" anyone? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-03-2008, 05:01 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 330 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 46x in 30 Posts Gil: 1,113 Bank: 16,820 Total Gil: 17,933 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN I'm sure they're around somewhere, but I've never seen them. WHM/THF can only be called situational ... I've used it, but there was always a specific reason. TH for farming, Flee for getting somewhere in a bit more of a hurry or losing aggro, SA is handy in the "Saving Private Ryaaf" assault (as well as Flee)... | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-03-2008, 05:11 AM | #14 (permalink) | | The dodo's conundrum Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,529 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 110 Thanked 297x in 199 Posts Gil: 367 Bank: 30,180 Total Gil: 30,547 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN This got bumped to talk about Anna? Awesome.
I've only seen Anna posts on Alla. Though I don't really go looking for them, either. Ellipses on Fenrir There is no rush. If you're not willing to take your time, don't be surprised when no one wants to give you much of theirs.
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. . . | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-03-2008, 06:04 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Dhalmel Slayer Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 31 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 13 Thanked 3x in 2 Posts Gil: 454 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 454 Donate | Re: BLM to SMN One of my favorite screenshots was from when I logged into Bhaf Thickets a few months ago next to a party meriting on Greater Colibri with a meleeing white mage.
It was my first sighting of our servers's biggest celebrity in action - I was lucky enough that Anna used sneak attack as I took the screenshot.
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P.S. She has since leveled summoner as a sub for her white mage because no one would take her into a sky/hnm linkshell. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:44 AM. | | |