12-18-2006, 01:00 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 269 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 269 Donate | BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? How would this work out? The automaton with high level add-ins should be a good compliment to BLM DD or would the lower level of the profession completely gimp the automaton? | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 01:11 PM | #2 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 29,296 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,296 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? If you're soloing, you don't want your automaton to be waking the mob up. So I don't know... I wouldn't use any pets at all. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
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- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 01:14 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 269 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 269 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? Would it do any good in a group? I'm mainly looking for the DD addition. Was hoping to not have to go with the blm/whm of old. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 01:29 PM | #4 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,360 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118x in 96 Posts Gil: 27,394 Bank: 50,142 Total Gil: 77,536 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? Originally Posted by Sintor | | Would it do any good in a group? I'm mainly looking for the DD addition. Was hoping to not have to go with the blm/whm of old. | You want DD? Sub rdm. Pup has no good qualities for blm. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 01:43 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Psycho Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK, Wales Posts: 414 Style: Dark - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 8 Thanked 14x in 14 Posts Gil: 2,409 Bank: 19,698 Total Gil: 22,107 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? sub rdm?
i'm a lvl 71 rdm and i have never heard to sub rdm with my blm when i train it for a sub all i get is /whm please  Death shall seek you out, If death fails, I promise you, i wont. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 01:45 PM | #6 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 29,296 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,296 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? i don't know about /rdm adding DD. But gravity is definitely awesome for soloing blm. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 01:49 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,018 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 465x in 306 Posts Gil: 3,113 Bank: 108,404 Total Gil: 111,517 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? BLM/RDM doesn't really see much use in XP parties until level 64, when you can cast Dispel from your RDM subjob (this is particularly useful when you have a Corsair in your party, who currently cannot Dispel enemies at all - and will only gain limited ability to do so after today's update).
As for BLM/PUP... not a good idea beyond the first 10 solo levels. After that it's not going to do much for you, especially not in an XP party, where the Automaton will fall progressively behind in damage due to level differences.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 02:17 PM | #8 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,360 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118x in 96 Posts Gil: 27,394 Bank: 50,142 Total Gil: 77,536 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? subbing rdm as opposed to whm gives you more int, which equates to more damage. Originally Posted by Icemage | | BLM/RDM doesn't really see much use in XP parties until level 64, when you can cast Dispel from your RDM subjob (this is particularly useful when you have a Corsair in your party, who currently cannot Dispel enemies at all - and will only gain limited ability to do so after today's update). | Dispel is yet another reason to sub rdm, and gravity if you want to solo. Originally Posted by Srxjo | sub rdm?
i'm a lvl 71 rdm and i have never heard to sub rdm with my blm when i train it for a sub all i get is /whm please | You get less mp out of the deal, but you still keep the curative spells, so /rdm is still very beneficial to any xp party. Trust me. I knew a plethora of blms who have gotten to 75 subbing rdm alone. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 02:20 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 2,598 Bank: 307 Total Gil: 2,905 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? /RDM does add a few extra INT over /WHM, but I always thought it was for Fast Cast that BLMs did that.
Either way, I would say /PUP is pretty much useless past Lv.10 or 12. No extra MP, I don't think there would be any real boost in INT, and the watered down nukes from the Automaton wouldn't even be worth it honestly. I'll give you credit for thinking up the combo, since I haven't seen anybody else suggest it, but that A for effort won't help you blow up things any faster. Sticking to WHM or RDM for subs will serve you much better.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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Odude 6 - Maat 1 The Taco Spot | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 02:22 PM | #10 (permalink) | | King of the Oompa Loompas Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,360 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 10 Thanked 118x in 96 Posts Gil: 27,394 Bank: 50,142 Total Gil: 77,536 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? Originally Posted by tdh | | /RDM does add a few extra INT over /WHM, but I always thought it was for Fast Cast that BLMs did that. | Fast cast is nice to have too. I'm sure people like seeing those bigger numbers though. :p | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 12-18-2006, 03:13 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,644 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 143 Thanked 37x in 30 Posts Gil: 2,598 Bank: 307 Total Gil: 2,905 Donate | Re: BLM/PUP ... Am I crazy? Originally Posted by Mog | | Fast cast is nice to have too. I'm sure people like seeing those bigger numbers though. :p | We all like seeing bigger numbers, but the amount of INT added from RDM sub is what... 4 INT at most? That 4 INT isn't going to make ~that~ big of a difference honestly.  [font="Comic Sans MS"]Odude
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