07-13-2006, 06:08 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 861 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 861 Donate | manaburn become gimped I was talking to my friend a little while ago, (lvl 52 almost 53 blm) and he told me that next update they will gimp manaburns, any pt w/ more then 2 blms will be gimped I'm guessing the elemental power will be lowered  any word or this being true? cause manaburns are awesome!!! and i just got high enough to be in one? Thx for the replys. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 06:11 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 2,234 Bank: 28,893 Total Gil: 31,127 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped Your friend is misinformed (or at least, he's misinforming you). While I'm not saying that that couldn't possibly happen in the next update, nothing has been said to indicate such officially.
They did say that they wanted to make it so that BLM had more reason to EXP in a traditional party, but they said that quite some time ago, and there is no schedule as to when such a change would go through, or even what form such a change would take. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 06:21 PM | #3 (permalink) | | ONE LIFE Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,797 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,675 Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts Gil: 22,418 Bank: 403,109 Total Gil: 425,526 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped llolz he red it on a foram! it must be coming JUST LIKE THE SKY IZ FELLING LOL! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 06:22 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 2,234 Bank: 28,893 Total Gil: 31,127 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped I never believe anything that I read on forums. Most of the people there are dirty, dirty liars.
/paradox | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 06:36 PM | #5 (permalink) | | ONE LIFE Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,797 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,675 Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts Gil: 22,418 Bank: 403,109 Total Gil: 425,526 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped Aelathir, why the hell is there a taru in your avatar?
And this is exactly the kind of shit that pissed me off over at alla, was people saying manaburn was being nerfed, that SE had said so at fan fest.
And then when I point out i've actually gone to fan fest, AND took notes (Which I was kind enough to post LIVE from a freaking PDA out in that freezing cold SoB tent, for over half the event, only missing the rest because of a memory issue on the device.), they never reply to the topic again.
Not even an apology. God those people pissed me off.
/emo
k, sorry for ranting on your thread.
anyway no | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 06:53 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Senior Member Brain of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 1,186 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 9 Thanked 12x in 11 Posts Gil: 1,230 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,230 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped Just the thought of it being possibly true is enough incentive for me to try to finish up BC40 for peacock charm sooner. Other than that...it doesn't effect me. I've never been in a mana-burn party, and I'm out of HNM (which I think will suffer a good bit if they add this change). | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 07:03 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 491 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Gil: 6,971 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,971 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped SE DID say recently that they want blms to party in traditional parties more than manaburns. How they will create the incentive is the question. What the OP posted is possible, but other things are possible too. If they do it, I hope they somehow do something similar with melee burns because black mages are going to be out of luck 70+ if they can't manaburn.
Oh, and Feba, they still talk about you on Alla (I only go because it updates quickly to get my forum fix, and most of the time I'm disagreeing with everyone there. That place is literally INSANE).
Most of the time, when they mention you, it's in the context of, "Goddamnit, you're almost as annoying as Feba was!" | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 07:05 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 49 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 576 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped I believe they said they would be adding spells to make it more worthwhile to be in a standard party rather than a burn-type party, not that they were going to gimp more than 1BLM in the same party.  BRD75 BST55 WHM44 NIN37 RDM36 WAR35 BLM34
MNK20 THF20 SMN17 DRG16 ... all others are <15, but >10.
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Rank-6.2 Windurst | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 07:17 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,512 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,348x in 820 Posts Gil: 5,820 Bank: 148,676 Total Gil: 154,496 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped A Manaburn nerf is always 'in the next update.' | Originally Posted by Goldesper | | I believe they said they would be adding spells to make it more worthwhile to be in a standard party rather than a burn-type party | All that was said was they wanted to make BLM more appealing to a more traditional party at higher levels. It was never said or hinted at how. | Originally Posted by Hamlet | | Most of the time, when they mention you, it's in the context of, "Goddamnit, you're almost as annoying as Feba was!" | OMG thats annoying!  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 07:56 PM | #10 (permalink) | | ONE LIFE Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,797 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 1,675 Thanked 1,484x in 1,039 Posts Gil: 22,418 Bank: 403,109 Total Gil: 425,526 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped | Quote: | | Most of the time, when they mention you, it's in the context of, "Goddamnit, you're almost as annoying as Feba was!" | lol, yeah, kojiami linked me to lebaudpld or something saying that to some anti-rmt person, or something.
And yes, kojiami still uses Allakhazam. Hm. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 08:23 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,846 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 23x in 20 Posts Gil: 16,660 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 16,660 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped S.E never makes any real anouncment about a job til a week or 2 prior to the update. thats seems to be the only way they ever really do it.Sadly Blm are not appealing in the mid 70's because it becomes TPburn area.
They gimped rngs to kill arrowburns, they lowered rng damage cause they were to strong on endgame hnms/gods. but oddly enough never touched manaburns, or blm damage output. an those blm taru do sick damage on kirin an such, can nuke the hell out of most bcnm's. yeah time to gimp the blm... 
Nin75, Bst75. Drk61, War61, Rdm40, All other jobs are 37. All 3 starting city missions completed. All Zilart missions completed. All CoP missions completed. TouA completed. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 08:27 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,586x in 1,000 Posts Gil: 2,234 Bank: 28,893 Total Gil: 31,127 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped Doing a lot of damage at endgame is not a reason to gimp a job. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 11:22 PM | #13 (permalink) | | From Beneath You, It Devours Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,413 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 41 Thanked 143x in 101 Posts Gil: 15,199 Bank: 41,022 Total Gil: 56,221 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped I think the rng "nerf" had a lot more to do with getting rid of arrowburn parties than endgame status.
I've never liked them nerfing jobs to level the playing field. I'd rather see them give incentives and bonuses to other jobs. Anyway, I wonder if the emergence of TPburn parties has delayed them trying to do something about manaburns. Now everyone is happy.  I RNG 75 I WAR 37 I NIN 38 I SAM 50 I Woodworking 92+2
PSN: Caspian | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-13-2006, 11:35 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Dictionary FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Warrior Posts: 1,530 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 125 Thanked 214x in 130 Posts Gil: 8,332 Bank: 29,495 Total Gil: 37,827 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped except I still haven't heard of manaburns going over 8k exp/hour. >.> And people can achieve that with PLDs and other "non-burn" jobs. Soooo manaburn still sits as a "colorful alternative" instead of "horribly blows away any other exp" like RNG parties used to and .... pretty much any melee party does now?
Please tell me I'm wrong, as my sister's record is close to 20k/hour in sky with some nins, wars, bards, etc (granted, that party only lasted an hour, but 20k in that hour nonetheless). Originally Posted by Taskmage | Women = Time x Money
Time = Money => Women = Money x Money
Women = Money^2
Money = √Evil => Women = (√Evil)^2
Women = Evil | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-14-2006, 01:31 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,846 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 23x in 20 Posts Gil: 16,660 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 16,660 Donate | Re: manaburn become gimped | Originally Posted by Aelathir | | Doing a lot of damage at endgame is not a reason to gimp a job. | lol sure it is in the eyes of S.E. drg/sam, drk/sam mnk/sam did insane DD thus they got nerfed real fast. no more 60+ return on a multi hit WS. Double Post Edited: | Originally Posted by Caspian | I think the rng "nerf" had a lot more to do with getting rid of arrowburn parties than endgame status.
I've never liked them nerfing jobs to level the playing field. I'd rather see them give incentives and bonuses to other jobs. Anyway, I wonder if the emergence of TPburn parties has delayed them trying to do something about manaburns. Now everyone is happy. | Actually alot of endgame had a ton of rng shooting gods while the blm nuked them, an most other DD just sat around. i know i use to watch it go on as i tried to tank them. 
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