Anwig Salade

Losrase · 06-30-2009, 11:51 AM

So what augments would you choose?

My thoughts are:

1st choice
(For other melee jobs + Better pet tank...kind of a suedo Optical Hat)
-Acc+10 and Atk+5
-Atk+3 and Pet dmg -10% (I thinking this is the best argument for BST since this works for physical and Magical damage)

2nd choice
(For multi-hit WS for all melee + Better pet tank)
-STR+4 and Weaponskill acc+15 (awsome for rampages alone)
-Atk+3 and Pet dmg -10%

3rd choice
(A pure BST Pet Tank)
-Atk+3 and Pet +5% haste
-Atk+3 and Pet dmg -10%

4th choice
(A BST for melee burn and non-solo NM fights + any other melee job?)
-Acc+10 and Atk+5
-STR+4 and Weaponskill acc+15

Any thoughts or better combinations?

Armando · 06-30-2009, 12:02 PM

I'm not a BST but I'm a bit dubious about the utility of #3 over #1. I could see it being marginally useful for soloing, but not as much in a group setting where you might want to Snarl to a jug pet.

Sekighara · 06-30-2009, 12:42 PM

I second Armando on that one but I am not a bst either but the overall gear that effect pets seem to be overall garbage pieces that will end up hurting so three might be useful. Do you use a Hauberk when in a party or group setting. Because if you already have an optical hat or were going to get one any way then the option three might suit you when you want your pet to take damage to give the tank a rest or maybe give some opening time for the whm and the tank to prep up before full engagement.

Balfree · 06-30-2009, 01:16 PM

I'd personally go with #3.

But thats because I rely a lot on my pets when im BSTing it up, dunno about other folks...

hexx · 06-30-2009, 02:06 PM

Are we talking strictly for BST's? Or any other melee what can equip it? If its the latter then heres my choice, which would be for my BLU mainly:

-STR+4 and Weaponskill acc+15
-Acc+10 and Atk+5

Which I would macro in for my CAWS's and such. Other than that, I can't think of anything since my other 75's already have great gear for their head slot.

Balfree · 07-01-2009, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexx

Are we talking strictly for BST's? Or any other melee what can equip it? If its the latter then heres my choice, which would be for my BLU mainly:

-STR+4 and Weaponskill acc+15
-Acc+10 and Atk+5

Which I would macro in for my CAWS's and such. Other than that, I can't think of anything since my other 75's already have great gear for their head slot.

Yeah kinda, since this is the Beastmaster forum :D

admx9 · 07-01-2009, 07:32 AM

STR+4, WSacc+15
AGI+4 WSdmg +2%

Perfect for my rng and my thf. I cant wait!

Esoa · 07-07-2009, 09:35 AM

#3 all the way and it's not even close. You guys do mostly solo or BST parties, right?

Raydeus · 07-07-2009, 09:47 AM

Tch. I thought this was about a new food/jug item.

Oh well, I'd pick option 1 for BST and 4 for everything else.

Romyro · 07-14-2009, 12:42 PM

Im going -10 pet damage for sure. but im torn between Pet: Crits or Pet: Haste

I was thinking of going with
Atk+3, Pet: -10% damage
And
Atk+3, Pet: Crit +3%

Pets can crit pretty high and I was always under the impression Haste isn’t that impressive unless your around 15% or more.
Especially if you’re fighting something where you’re pet doesn’t last very long.

Yellow Mage · 07-14-2009, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romyro

Pets can crit pretty high and I was always under the impression Haste isn’t that impressive unless your around 15% or more.

Strictly speaking, Haste is always superior to Critical Hit Rate. And there's more Haste available than Critical Hit Rate on that gear for your Pet.

And minor correction on your post, but both Haste and Critical Hit Rate come with Accuracy+3, not Attack+3.

Armando · 07-14-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Pets can crit pretty high and I was always under the impression Haste isn’t that impressive unless your around 15% or more.

Haste starts to see better returns past 15% but Haste always improves your performance by AT LEAST the % listed. Crits, on the other hand, always improve your performance by less than the indicated number unless your Attack is drastically low.

It's no contest anyways. Crits don't help you build TP.

Romyro · 07-14-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Strictly speaking, Haste is always superior to Critical Hit Rate. And there's more Haste available than Critical Hit Rate on that gear for your Pet.

Quote:

Haste starts to see better returns past 15% but Haste always improves your performance by AT LEAST the % listed. Crits, on the other hand, always improve your performance by less than the indicated number unless your Attack is drastically low.

Haste it is then, thanks ^^

Quote:

And minor correction on your post, but both Haste and Critical Hit Rate come with Accuracy+3, not Attack+3.

Your right…sorry wasn’t paying attention to that part ><

Malacite · 07-14-2009, 01:05 PM

The pet haste is worthless because you just can't get enough of it on them (unless you're a PUP with a turbo charger, then it's absolutely worth it but this is a BST thread)

I'd go with Option 1 or 2. 4 STR and 15 WS accuracy is godly and can be used on multiple jobs while still specializing for BST. Besides, if you're soloing wouldn't O Hat be better for when you start taking the heat? Or W. Turban for TP/shadows.

EDIT: Just want to reinforce that PUP is the only job with any business taking pet haste from these mini-expansion armors and even then it still fails compared to the other pet buffs. Though I admit it would be interesting to see an automaton hit the haste cap...

Romyro · 07-14-2009, 01:24 PM

Hmm maybe haste works even better then

72pup ^^

06-30-2009, 12:02 PM	#2
Armando Simon the Digger Iron Emblem of Service Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 5,401 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 887 Thanked 1,741x in 966 Posts My Mood:	Re: Anwig Salade I'm not a BST but I'm a bit dubious about the utility of #3 over #1. I could see it being marginally useful for soloing, but not as much in a group setting where you might want to Snarl to a jug pet.

06-30-2009, 01:16 PM	#4
Balfree And Idiot Super Moderator Golden Star Join Date: May 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 4,112 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 146 Thanked 535x in 295 Posts My Mood:	Re: Anwig Salade I'd personally go with #3. But thats because I rely a lot on my pets when im BSTing it up, dunno about other folks... __________________ heartframe.tumblr.com

07-01-2009, 07:32 AM	#7
admx9 Les Enfants Terrible Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 44 Style: Dark Theme V6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 4 Posts My Mood:	Re: Anwig Salade STR+4, WSacc+15 AGI+4 WSdmg +2% Perfect for my rng and my thf. I cant wait! __________________ Solidous! from Laksmi CoP: O ZM:O Sandy: 9-1 ToAU:29 WoTG: 15 ACP:O AMK: 5 BLM:75 THF:75 DRK:75 RNG:75 RDM:37 WHM:37 WAR:37 SAM:37 BLU:33 DNC:33 PUP:32 PLD:15 DRG:10 MNK:9 SCH:6 COR:28

07-07-2009, 09:35 AM	#8
Esoa Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 136 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3x in 3 Posts	Re: Anwig Salade #3 all the way and it's not even close. You guys do mostly solo or BST parties, right?

07-07-2009, 09:47 AM	#9
Raydeus Altanaの戦士 Golden Star Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fenrir Server Posts: 4,100 Style: Light Theme V6 Thanks: 228 Thanked 501x in 323 Posts	Re: Anwig Salade Tch. I thought this was about a new food/jug item. Oh well, I'd pick option 1 for BST and 4 for everything else. __________________ Sanctuary of Zi'tah! "In this world, the one who has the most fun is the winner!" C.B. Prishe's Knight since 2004. その目だれの目。

06-30-2009, 11:51 AM	#1
Losrase Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Physically or Mentally? Posts: 448 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 242 Thanked 33x in 26 Posts My Mood:	Anwig Salade So what augments would you choose? My thoughts are: 1st choice (For other melee jobs + Better pet tank...kind of a suedo Optical Hat) -Acc+10 and Atk+5 -Atk+3 and Pet dmg -10% (I thinking this is the best argument for BST since this works for physical and Magical damage) 2nd choice (For multi-hit WS for all melee + Better pet tank) -STR+4 and Weaponskill acc+15 (awsome for rampages alone) -Atk+3 and Pet dmg -10% 3rd choice (A pure BST Pet Tank) -Atk+3 and Pet +5% haste -Atk+3 and Pet dmg -10% 4th choice (A BST for melee burn and non-solo NM fights + any other melee job?) -Acc+10 and Atk+5 -STR+4 and Weaponskill acc+15 Any thoughts or better combinations? __________________ PSN ID: Kelshan Completed: F.E.A.R., Bioshock, Turok, The Darkness, Viking: Battle of Asgard, Timeshift, Folklore, Time Crisis 4, Dark Sector, Heavenly Sword, Resistance: Fall of Man, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, The Orange Box, DBZ: Burst Limit, Assassin's Creed, Lair, Overlord: Raising Hell, Fracture, Condemned 2: Bloodshot, Legendary. Currently Playing: MW2 (It is addicting)

06-30-2009, 12:42 PM	#3
Sekighara Wash my hands of this mess... Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 163 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 43 Thanked 8x in 7 Posts My Mood:	Re: Anwig Salade I second Armando on that one but I am not a bst either but the overall gear that effect pets seem to be overall garbage pieces that will end up hurting so three might be useful. Do you use a Hauberk when in a party or group setting. Because if you already have an optical hat or were going to get one any way then the option three might suit you when you want your pet to take damage to give the tank a rest or maybe give some opening time for the whm and the tank to prep up before full engagement.

07-14-2009, 12:42 PM	#10
Romyro Pet Job Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 170 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 7 Thanked 6x in 6 Posts My Mood:	Re: Anwig Salade Im going -10 pet damage for sure. but im torn between Pet: Crits or Pet: Haste I was thinking of going with Atk+3, Pet: -10% damage And Atk+3, Pet: Crit +3% Pets can crit pretty high and I was always under the impression Haste isn’t that impressive unless your around 15% or more. Especially if you’re fighting something where you’re pet doesn’t last very long.

07-14-2009, 01:05 PM	#14
Malacite Crime Solving Rank 11 Paladin! Holyknight Emblem Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 6,406 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 1,464 Thanked 548x in 384 Posts My Mood:	Re: Anwig Salade The pet haste is worthless because you just can't get enough of it on them (unless you're a PUP with a turbo charger, then it's absolutely worth it but this is a BST thread) I'd go with Option 1 or 2. 4 STR and 15 WS accuracy is godly and can be used on multiple jobs while still specializing for BST. Besides, if you're soloing wouldn't O Hat be better for when you start taking the heat? Or W. Turban for TP/shadows. EDIT: Just want to reinforce that PUP is the only job with any business taking pet haste from these mini-expansion armors and even then it still fails compared to the other pet buffs. Though I admit it would be interesting to see an automaton hit the haste cap... __________________ My Dream Samurai Gear

07-14-2009, 01:24 PM	#15
Romyro Pet Job Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 170 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 7 Thanked 6x in 6 Posts My Mood:	Re: Anwig Salade Hmm maybe haste works even better then 72pup ^^

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