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Old 07-31-2008, 12:46 PM   #1
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Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

So... I'm a Taru BST and do roughly 1/3 of CC's damage. Also I'm lvl 75 with Whm sub.

I at least want to get closer to CC's damage output

So, my question is... how do I help bridge the gap between this huge amount??

I'd prefer NM drops or buyable items, because i still don't have sky or sea, but if you want to mention those too, that's fine.

Either way, my set up is

Main - Pick of trials
Shield - Tariqah
Head- Optical Hat
Body - Hauberk
Back - Psilos Mantle
Waist- Life Belt
Hands - Bison Wristbands
Neck - Merman's gorget
Pants - Royal Knight's Breeches
Legs - Dance shoes
Rings - nothing speical, just charm gear
Earrings - Spike earring and charm gear

With this, I have:
+44 accuracy
+30 Attack
+7 DEX
+7 STR

So, what can i do to improve?

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Old 07-31-2008, 12:55 PM   #2
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but Trial Weapons generally aren't the best there are. Soon as you get Decimation, you may find it worthwhile to go after a Maneater or something.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:01 PM   #3
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but Trial Weapons generally aren't the best there are. Soon as you get Decimation, you may find it worthwhile to go after a Maneater or something.
I know that ><

I just need help picking a better one.
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

Tatami Shield
Wyvern Helm
Amemet Mantle +1
Spiked Finger Gauntlets.
Chiv Chain
Potent Belt
Assault Earring
Mermans Earring


also get some acc or str rings

Do you have a macro for charm that has all your charm gear in it? Also need a melee set, and a weaponskill set.

If you have the money, you should get dusk hands and feet along with a W Turban and Swift Belt (assuming you are that far in CoP).

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Pick up a Maneater for your axe.
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

oohh wow, i had no idea those Spiked Finger Gauntlets were out there, i totally missed that. The Merman earring is nice too, and I didn't know about the hidden effect of the Maneater. I'll pick a few of those up!

Too bad they're so pricey
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Old 07-31-2008, 03:26 PM   #6
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

The gauntlets and assault earring are both from bcnms. You should have plenty of beast and kindred seals from leveling bst unless you already used them all.
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Old 07-31-2008, 04:45 PM   #7
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

Drop the /whm if you can. war, sam, drk, nin. Nin seems to trump 99% of all exp camps. That is except if your facing mobs with aoe, in that case Whm is the best. Though you can really boost your DD with mane/juggy or wood/mane combo.

but /whm goes like this for me.

Main = Juggy Str+3, atk+30.
off hand = Tatami Shield Str+5, Killer effects
Head = (fine if your acc is problematic,)
body = (fine)
Back = Forager mantle Str +3, Atk +15 or Amemt Mantle+1 Str+2, Atk +15
waist = Potent belt Str +3 Acc +8
Thick Mufflers = Atk +3, Acc+3
Neck = Chivalrous Chain Str+3, Acc +5
Pants = (fine) Str+2, Dex +2, Acc +3
Feet = Ogre Ledelsens Atk +10
Ring = Ruby Ring x2 Str +8
Earring = Spike is fine or Mermans earring

Anyways so after all that I give you. I even included stats if you were to avoid going with the costly juggernaut for Maneater

Str +32 (without juggy for maneater = ) Str+37
Atk + 78 (without juggy for maneater = ) Atk +60
Acc +39 ( without juggy for maneater = ) +44
Dex +7

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Abbreviation: STR

A stat that is compared with an enemy's vitality to determine the base damage of a character's attacks. This stat is very important to almost all physical damage dealing jobs. Strength also has a direct impact on a character's attack and Ranged Attack. For every 2 points STR increase a character has, his/her attack and Ranged Attack value is raised by 1 point.

Rampage Modifier Str 30%

Anyways most of this gear I listed is fulltime DD gear. YOu really don't have to swap out anything much to put in a decent rampage return. If you wanted too, hands would most likely be it.
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

Don't get Spiked Finger Gauntlets! Unless you do a lot of level cap (60) stuff. Otherwise get Tarasque Mitts, 80k on my server compared to 300k of Spiked Finger Gauntlets on my server. It's a 2 attack difference


Oh, and depending on what you're fighting, you'll never match CC's damage as on much lower level mobs you'll never reach the high attack of a CC vs a wild moment. This is especially true if farming, due to how pet/mob mechanics work compared to players.

I.e. Call a CC out in South Gustaberg. Send it vs a level 1 bee. It'll probably do 300 odd damage, whereas if you try to hit the bee you'll probably land for 150~ odd damage. There's a damage cap for low level mobs dependant on your pet and yourself. I forget the real mechanics unfortunately of how it all works but you can run around to test it.
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

If you're /whm, you're probably not fighting things that require a lot of acc (pure DDs only wear 50-60 acc against low IT mobs so you'd probably be fine if you dropped some for +attack).

I'm pretty cheap, so here's my "cheap path to upgrades" thoughts:

You can get the cheap tarasque mitts and the ogre feet for a quick attack +20.

Potent belt and Chiv Chain are overrated. They're certainly nice, but lifebelt + R.G. collar will function good enough (I'd put priority on obtaining Chiv over Potent, though). Though in your case, given what I said about acc... even a good ol' Swordbelt could be nice if you don't have swift.

Speaking of, Turban + Swift is a nice and relatively easy way to improve DPS, though it'll still look like you're hitting weakly.

Get some str+4 rings or something since you're not charming when you're smacking and you're really not in need of the acc.

Building for a very STR/attack-heavy set up has a few benefits. First, as I mentioned, you don't need much of the missing acc when you're solo. Second: if you ever party with it, just eat sushi and you get to use the same DD set up (But don't sub WHM!!).

Also, last I knew, Maneater pretty much always out-DPSes Jugger.

I'd also like to call attention to the Iron Ram Pick. This is a very cheap stepping-stone to maneater/woodville/jug. If you're doing anything /nin and only have 1 good axe (I'd aim for maneater), this is your cheap and very effective offhand. Very nice DPS and attack+10.
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Re: Help me match CC's damage! I need upgrades!

I know people say Mane slightly out DD's Juggy. But the P log showed I was actually out DD'ing and Ws'ing my fellow Bst in the same gear and merits (except for axe merits which I am 4 lower then they are) When I was main handing the Juggy vs one with a Mane.
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Old 08-06-2008, 10:04 AM   #11
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Hm... i've overlooked all this info, and i'm happy to say that it was really really good! Thank you all for your support! I had no idea some of these pieces of equipment even existed.
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