08-23-2007, 02:56 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 401 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 401 Donate | august update {beast master}{you can have this} Didnt think pol would ever do it but Augtust update FTW,
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The duration for which a beastmaster can maintain a pet invoked with the "Call Beast" ability will be extended. The new length of time, though varying depending on the type of pet brought forth, may be up to 90 minutes.
Additionally, when not engaged in combat, pet healing will be possible through use of the "Stay" ability. Finally, the experience penalty previously incurred by a beastmaster while using a charmed monster will be done away with.
This update will almost have a big of impact on the bst community as the MPK update, Our jug pets will be bit more useful, we not can rest our pets like ever other Pet class out there and the biggest thing ofcourse NO EXP PENALTY WOO, thats such a big thing we will see more beasts in partys because the exp penalty jug pet myth will be killed for certin now, Soloing will be more effiecient like if u accidently dont hit ur leave macro in time no exp cut.
On the flip side we may start to lose our identity as minority job, were likely to see a big out break of new beast masters and we may fall into a generic position as another partying job for the masses.
Id love to see other peoples oppinions on how the update will effect them | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 03:30 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Peachtree City, GA Posts: 173 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 32x in 23 Posts Gil: 3,300 Bank: 23,423 Total Gil: 26,722 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} I am waiting to see the new durations. Most likely CC will be 90 minutes. I am hoping all of the HQ versions will also be the same.
As for the xp loss negation, it is about time. I don't think it ever should have been there to begin with.
I don't think charming in parties will be feasible, as it usually isn't now, but soloing will be nice. Especially now that you don't have to release to finish off the mob. This will also help before 35 as you wont need to ghetto leave as much. THough I am guessing you will still lose charm partway through the second fight. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 03:34 AM | #3 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 280 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post Gil: 2,907 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,907 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} This will be mega for me, Ive just hit 23 and cant wait to get my crabby CC tonight - now come Tuesday when I play as BST, I wont have an xp loss.
I cant believe, honestly, although I am really stoked about it, that they've improved BST this much without giving it a negative aspect.
- no xp penalty
- improved call beast times
- pet healing
As a new BST on the block, Im thrilled at these changes because the game just got a bit easier, purist BSTs might not like this so much I dont know. It's like when the prommy runs became easier, a lot of people were upset by that - this may just seem like Squeenix turning down the difficulty yet again.
It'll be interesting to see how others see it. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 04:02 AM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 231 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,683 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,683 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} YES YES YES FREAKING YES! I love this. People I've been talking to were standing strong with the idea that BST would be neglected in this coming update.... NO FREAKING WAY! I know I got wehat I wanted for Christmas..... I mean August!
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Sounds YUMMY! | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 04:45 AM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 366 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 11 Thanked 47x in 31 Posts Gil: 4,407 Bank: 28,147 Total Gil: 32,553 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} They're all useful ... I'm no BST (mostly), but I note that none of them is in any way a change in effectiveness in combat (even if XP is returned to full). It makes your life easier overall, but doesn't help you win the fight ... so there may not be much to complain about in terms of the "In MY day..." stuff. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 04:52 AM | #6 (permalink) | | Senior Veteran Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,513 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 106 Thanked 1,350x in 821 Posts Gil: 5,979 Bank: 151,649 Total Gil: 157,628 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} But But But ... Beastmaster never gets anything.
I'm just waiting for OMG to come in and tell me this update is nothing so I know everything is right with the world. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Mhurron for above post: | | | 08-23-2007, 04:55 AM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 401 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 401 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} Well if currently if u use leave all the hate from ur pet goes onto you, so say you use leave when ur pets @2% hp remaining, ur thinking yeah 2% i can take it down, then lets say its a gob u get bomb toss'd or goblin rushed or u just keep missing, potentialy if u had allready been fighting with not full hp some cercimstances result in death or almost death potentialy killing exp chains, if u dont have to use leave u dont have to worry about the hate on u and not being able to take down the last % by urself | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 04:59 AM | #8 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 251 Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 16,090 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 37,196 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} Originally Posted by Mhurron | But But But ... Beastmaster never gets anything.
I'm just waiting for OMG to come in and tell me this update is nothing so I know everything is right with the world. |
Aye if this happens I will laugh my self off my chair and onto the ground... Congrats on the update guys =D, perfect timing for me and working on my beast. ^^b | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 05:26 AM | #9 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 401 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 401 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} {um..} i tried posting the link to the POL update for it, but i havent made enough posts, but its on the POL website if u take a look Last edited by Valix : 08-23-2007 at 05:32 AM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 05:39 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Alone Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 3,145 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 251 Thanked 295x in 206 Posts Gil: 16,090 Bank: 21,106 Total Gil: 37,196 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} Originally Posted by Valix | | {um..} i tried posting the link to the POL update for it, but i havent made enough posts, but its on the POL website if u take a look | http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics...12/detail.html there you go | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 05:47 AM | #11 (permalink) | | Fan of Murphie Brain of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,555 Style: Light - Version 5 Thanks: 97 Thanked 277x in 164 Posts Gil: 7,061 Bank: 41,461 Total Gil: 48,522 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} Originally Posted by Jonastb | | I don't think charming in parties will be feasible, as it usually isn't now, but soloing will be nice. | I can see it working during normal parties under the right circumstances. If the right zone/camp is picked, you could hunt for a good EM pet before the party gets going. You'd want to pick one that isn't too difficult to charm, since you'll be having to recharm often enough. And since they're doing away with the exp penalty, you can keep it charmed through out each fight.
Charm duration on an even match is approximately 4.5 minutes before any bonuses from +charm gear. To keep it from uncharming during a fight, you would wait until you're between fights, and then use Leave followed very quickly by Charm. If your pet took some damage during the fight, you would follow up with Stay to make sure they get to regen some health. If the regen from Stay isn't enough to keep pace with the damage being taken, we can try to make up for the difference with Reward. Lyonheart
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Boneworker's Signboard, Bone Purification, Bone Ensorcellment, Filing, Lumberjack, Chainwork | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 06:07 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 401 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 401 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} Just gotta hope stay works like healing on leaved mobs, where they get like 15% and up a tick, u add that with Reward and rewards regen effect and it might be a bit more useful.
But what i think it will make way for is smaller parties, SE has stated they want to make smaller parties have a larger oppertunity then having to wait out for 6 players etc, like with the signet EXP bonus's, you could take a BST, WHM, Tank ( not saying this combo would work just throwing an example out and maybe a DD and party off VT's instead of IT's and if ur able to fight VT's ur likely to be in a zone where EM's are up for charming. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 06:10 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Heir to Odin Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: May 2006 Location: None of your damn business Posts: 3,488 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 737 Thanked 318x in 218 Posts Gil: 98,042 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 98,042 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} I think it's time for a certain kitten to stick his foot in his mouth ~.^ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 08-23-2007, 06:19 AM | #14 (permalink) | | FFXIWiki'er FFXIWiki Team Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,572 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 102 Thanked 39x in 30 Posts Gil: 22,373 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 22,373 Donate | Re: august update {beast master}{you can have this} Originally Posted by Valix | | Well if currently if u use leave all the hate from ur pet goes onto you, so say you use leave when ur pets @2% hp remaining, ur thinking yeah 2% i can take it down, then lets say its a gob u get bomb toss'd or goblin rushed or u just keep missing, potentialy if u had allready been fighting with not full hp some cercimstances result in death or almost death potentialy killing exp chains, if u dont have to use leave u dont have to worry about the hate on u and not being able to take down the last % by urself |
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