07-18-2006, 04:43 PM | #1 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Isn't it odd... Before the MPK patch, I was a good little boy and never felt like MPKing anyone, even when they annoyed me. But now, after the patch, I want to MPK anyone that looks at me funny or comes to my camp and says "THIS IS PT ZONE BST CAN EXP NEWHERE LOL". Perhaps it's because I know that now I can't do anything about them. Somehow just knowing that you *can* do something makes you feel better.  BRD72 BST58 Windurst 8 Got to charm em all! lolemobst ~Veve~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:03 PM | #2 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 10,494 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,494 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... just use their mobs to fight the same mob.
if they want to compete with a bst for mobs, let them.
if they want to be assholes, just ignore and keep camping.
as far as stealing mobs goes, theres no such thing. as long as its yellow, its fair game. this was told to me by a gm. so use it to your advantage, just be careful on pet swaps cuz they can do it to you. Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:07 PM | #3 (permalink) | | Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,861 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 27x in 21 Posts Gil: 18,562 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 18,562 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... | Originally Posted by Veve | | Before the MPK patch, I was a good little boy and never felt like MPKing anyone, even when they annoyed me. But now, after the patch, I want to MPK anyone that looks at me funny or comes to my camp and says "THIS IS PT ZONE BST CAN EXP NEWHERE LOL". Perhaps it's because I know that now I can't do anything about them. Somehow just knowing that you *can* do something makes you feel better. | Yeah the new patch made alot of players more cocky towards bst. then again the patch may have kept us from killin them. it hasnt stopped us from turning their 4k exp time into a 1k exp time with a few tricks of the trade.
simply depop mobs on them, if S.E has a problem with it you simply tell them your changing them to E.M. since their is no law against it. or you can move mobs around so they are more likely to aggro the wondering mobs. or link with some others. while they try to avoid your trap. S.E has a problem with that. say "hey im not the guy who programs mob patterns. they go where they want to". or i love to use 20 pets to kill 1 mob. so all they get to fight are former pets of mine, that give them next to none for exp.
so next time they wanna be cocky. remember the bst way. Vana'deil is our stage. an players an mobs. our just puppets for our amusment. 
Nin75, Bst75. Drk61, War61, Rdm40, All other jobs are 37. All 3 starting city missions completed. All Zilart missions completed. All CoP missions completed. TouA completed. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:11 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Lightness Keeper of Knowledge Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393 Style: Light - Version 4 My Mood: Thanks: 92 Thanked 129x in 77 Posts Gil: 10,494 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10,494 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... i love how in areas where everyone sneaks/invisibles, you'll find a bst far lower in level running aruond with no buffs.
like lil_nin said, if they want to push you out or camp on top of you, let them. just use a lot of pets, and pet vs pet mobs, or start converting the whole zone. charm is a 10s recast. can they be claiming anything faster on stuff they xp on? i doubt it. Omni@Remora: NIN75 RNG75 MNK75 COR75 BST63 BRD45
♪♫ San d'Oria Complete ♪♫ ZM Complete ♪♫ CoP Complete ♪♫ AM Complete ♪♫ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:29 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... I normally do dia/charm/leave, but normally dia doesnt last very long.
Oh, and some BSTs in my ls have been thrown in jail for depopping monsters in CN. Stupid, isn't it?  BRD72 BST58 Windurst 8 Got to charm em all! lolemobst ~Veve~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:31 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 15,096 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,096 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... Comments like that are the exact reason people look down on BST, you know. Seriously if you want people to change thier attitude towards BST and thier XP ways, then drop the attitude. Until you do, you're just another ass hole player no different than the people who LOLZ WTF BST SOLO ANYWHERE NOOB!
I'm not saying thier take on it is right, but just pouring gas on the flame isn't going to do anything but make you look like the people you look down on. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:36 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... | Originally Posted by sevenpointflaw | Comments like that are the exact reason people look down on BST, you know. Seriously if you want people to change thier attitude towards BST and thier XP ways, then drop the attitude. Until you do, you're just another ass hole player no different than the people who LOLZ WTF BST SOLO ANYWHERE NOOB!
I'm not saying thier take on it is right, but just pouring gas on the flame isn't going to do anything but make you look like the people you look down on. | Want to know the real reason people look down on BST? Keep it a secret, though.
(people look down on BSTs because other jobs are better for almost anything besides soloing for exp now)
What a shock!  BRD72 BST58 Windurst 8 Got to charm em all! lolemobst ~Veve~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:40 PM | #8 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 197 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Gil: 6,743 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,743 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... | Originally Posted by Veve | | (people look down on BSTs because other jobs are better for almost anything besides soloing for exp now) | (Huh?! ) The Knight of Faith resigns the dream, only to believe it. 
Many tanks to Trita/Tagi for the signature. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:40 PM | #9 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 15,096 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,096 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... Really? Because I've found BST more usefull than other melee in most things I do now. *shrug* Not a very good secret  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:47 PM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... | Originally Posted by sevenpointflaw | Really? Because I've found BST more usefull than other melee in most things I do now. *shrug* Not a very good secret | Examples would be nice. No one has ever, ever said to me "Every BST I have met is an ass". Everyone has said "BST? No, we'll get x job" or "BST is gimp".  BRD72 BST58 Windurst 8 Got to charm em all! lolemobst ~Veve~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:51 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 197 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post Gil: 6,743 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 6,743 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... | Originally Posted by Veve | | Examples would be nice. No one has ever, ever said to me "Every BST I have met is an ass". Everyone has said "BST? No, we'll get x job" or "BST is gimp". | I don't see this as much of a motivation to be insulting to BSTs when they do what they're good at.
The condescension appears to be on a efficiency-only level, as opposed to a generic distaste for the person.
The reason why people look down on BSTs is probably one of the most basic human emotions:
Greed.
They perceive (correctly or not) you to be taking their valuable experience and get irritated. (Not to mention, you are one person taking experience points near to what a party might, which makes you appear to be particularly gluttonous)
Taking such a negative attitude back (as Sevenpoint has pointed out) is only likely to magnify it. The Knight of Faith resigns the dream, only to believe it. 
Many tanks to Trita/Tagi for the signature. Last edited by Shopee : 07-18-2006 at 05:59 PM. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 05:56 PM | #12 (permalink) | | Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 665 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 5 Posts Gil: 15,096 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 15,096 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... Well, some examples then. I duo (as whm) with my friend (bst main) when farming eyes for hakutaku cluster, or any where else that you have to farm and get links, agro, etc. I have yet to see anyone manage links and the like as well as a BST can.
At level 60 cap assault with "uber gear" on mnk, war, nin, drg, have all been outparsed by bst/nin for straight damage.
Don't believe? Go do a 60 cap assault and fire up a parser. See just who outdamages who.
I don't like nor get the anti-bst mentality, because frankly bst rock all over other melee if the have even half an inkling of how and when to release pets and why. Also, bst seem to (in genearl) take more pride in thier job than others, which means they tend to go the extra mile as a whole - which just adds to thier abilities in general if you ask me. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 06:01 PM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... | Originally Posted by sevenpointflaw | Well, some examples then. I duo (as whm) with my friend (bst main) when farming eyes for hakutaku cluster, or any where else that you have to farm and get links, agro, etc. At level 60 cap assault with "uber gear" on mnk, war, nin, drg, have all been outparsed by bst/nin for straight damage.
Don't believe? Go do a 60 cap assault and fire up a parser. See just who outdamages who.
I don't like nor get the anti-bst mentality, because frankly bst rock all over other melee if the have even half an inkling of how and when to release pets and why. Also, bst seem to (in genearl) take more pride in thier job than others, which means they tend to go the extra mile as a whole - which just adds to thier abilities in general if you ask me. | 1. I don't have ToAU.
2. Although I play on a PC, I don't use windower or other third party programs.
3. Does that assult have evm pets? If so, then I admit bsts are pretty good when there are evm pets around. (genbu for ex) But most of the time there are no evm pets near. (sky for ex)
Edit: sp  BRD72 BST58 Windurst 8 Got to charm em all! lolemobst ~Veve~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 07-18-2006, 06:03 PM | #15 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 55 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 2,576 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 2,576 Donate | Re: Isn't it odd... Maybe you guys are right, but a lot of the time (dynamis, CoP, a lot of H/NMs) no one wants the bst to come if possible.  BRD72 BST58 Windurst 8 Got to charm em all! lolemobst ~Veve~ | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:56 PM. | | |