Light stave hidden trait: increase charm success rate?

overflow · 06-12-2004, 03:56 PM

I've never tried charming Amemet =\ or Ose >_> lol might be a rumor @_@.. but then again if Amemet is charmable.. can't you just 2 hour on him.. then hit 1 lizard in kuftal and heel.. then drag it around till all the lizards start beating it to death then charm the lizard and finish amemet off? =\ /grin...

i've killed amemet solo like 40+ times hhehe i never tried charming it though =X i don't really want to confirm since amemet can kill me in 7 hits or less...soo @_@... maybe if i was in a PT id try to charm it for kicks.. =X? I've tried charming behemoth... sometimes it says "Behemoth can't be charmed" instead of bound or errr etc.. something it's probably just a bug or something =x!

Keftenk · 06-12-2004, 10:37 PM

hehe, yah. im not sure on Amement either. Dejavu is JP, dont understand him clearly. But BB can back me up, the guy is nuts, lol. Yet Ose I have seen, own two eyes....I couldn't believe it.

sudo · 06-13-2004, 12:13 AM

what's it say when you gague them? I've not fought either yet and not sure where they are or I'd go try it myself.

Nodachi · 06-13-2004, 01:21 AM

My question is though. . . if you charm a NM of any sort, how are you going to get the drop?

Keftenk · 06-13-2004, 11:04 AM

lol, thats simple. have 300% TP for Spirits. go fight stuff with NM(Ose)...(btw this is what Riskycat did). Wait till the NM is in death range of Spirits, decharm (you had it charmed this long cause of Familiar) then Spirited.. easy :D i love you RISKY!! wherever you are!

Rio · 06-13-2004, 01:27 PM

When you charm a monster and release it, you can still get loot drops off that monster after you kill it, even if it is low on HP.

Nodachi · 06-13-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by Rio
When you charm a monster and release it, you can still get loot drops off that monster after you kill it, even if it is low on HP.

Oh my. . . i'm so charming VE soon then. Thanks for the info mate ( '-')b

jaby · 06-15-2004, 02:14 PM

Hah, even if your charm fails to work, you claimed it. So bam, kill it yourself. Bring a broth pet just incase as well (heard VE is lvl.30?)

Sanguine · 06-23-2004, 04:05 AM

Hm, saw a fellow L72 BST in Ru'Aun Gardens tonight use nothing but Light Staff for charming Flamingos. Failed like 1/20 instead of 10/20 like I did with a Monster Signa.

So yah, I went and bought one tonight. Gonna go play with it tomorrow.

P.S I bought a Hi-Reraiser too ^_^_^_^

Frumply · 06-23-2004, 09:46 AM

with a light stave it's not impossible to level in ruaun's from 71 either. right now i'm switching between ifrit's and ruaun.

Since this news've been really spreading lately prices've gone up. A patch is fairly imminent, so don't be surprised if the entire thing's nerfed... Square likes to remove overwhelmingly advantageous things such as this.

METDeath · 06-23-2004, 01:32 PM

a patch affecting the windows client, not the ps2 client, so it's not a game mechanics nerf, it's either fixing a windowing bug, or somehow another attempt to prevent botting (fishing or NM, who can say)

sudo · 06-23-2004, 01:36 PM

anyone think it'd be more worth it to get the HQ light staff, apollo staff?

1 mil is a lot to drop for a staff but hell with juggernaut at 2mil, what's another mil or so right?

I guess just wanted to know if HQ light staff will have any significant increase in good charming vs a regular one. And I am not referring to the extra 1 chr on the HQ staff either.

Frumply · 06-23-2004, 01:58 PM

depends a lot on why the light stave is increasing charm rate. NQ elemental staves have +10% damage with a spell of that element, and +10% to lower resist. HQ staves have +15%. _if_ charm is being considered as a spell (and therefore the charm rate, or charm strength, or whatever it is you might want to consider, is increasing by 10%) then there may be an increase. With how well the NQ works I don't see any reason why you'd want to bother with the HQ staff, though.

As for the juggernaut... even with the atk+30 i'm not sure if that or tabarzin will be stronger, not that I got money for either. I'll prolly keep using my trial pick and Lohar until i get some cash made...

Sanguine · 06-23-2004, 06:18 PM

I have a Juggernaut and around 450 ATK now. Compared to other BSTs with a Tabarzin, I own them all. I regularly hit for more damage than my pet (pet however is still able to hold agro) and Rampage for 400-500+.

ATK is the shit when you attack stuff like crabs because no matter how good the DMG on your weapon is, if your ATK is shit, you'll never hit for max damage very often with it. Might as well have a 20 DMG weapon rather than a 46.

Frumply · 06-23-2004, 07:42 PM

meh, i'll just eat a mythkabob instead.

06-13-2004, 12:13 AM	#18
sudo Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 714 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	what's it say when you gague them? I've not fought either yet and not sure where they are or I'd go try it myself. __________________ 75/bst, 60/smn, 51/rdm, 46/whm, 40/blm, 37/nin, 37/thf, 37/war, 32/sam, 25/brd, 10/pld, 7/mnk

06-13-2004, 01:27 PM	#21
Rio Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 74 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	When you charm a monster and release it, you can still get loot drops off that monster after you kill it, even if it is low on HP. __________________ "I like hexa strike, I like it a lot" - Rioo

06-23-2004, 01:32 PM	#26
METDeath Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 350 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	a patch affecting the windows client, not the ps2 client, so it's not a game mechanics nerf, it's either fixing a windowing bug, or somehow another attempt to prevent botting (fishing or NM, who can say) __________________

06-23-2004, 01:36 PM	#27
sudo Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 714 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	anyone think it'd be more worth it to get the HQ light staff, apollo staff? 1 mil is a lot to drop for a staff but hell with juggernaut at 2mil, what's another mil or so right? I guess just wanted to know if HQ light staff will have any significant increase in good charming vs a regular one. And I am not referring to the extra 1 chr on the HQ staff either. __________________ 75/bst, 60/smn, 51/rdm, 46/whm, 40/blm, 37/nin, 37/thf, 37/war, 32/sam, 25/brd, 10/pld, 7/mnk

06-23-2004, 06:18 PM	#29
Sanguine Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 119 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	I have a Juggernaut and around 450 ATK now. Compared to other BSTs with a Tabarzin, I own them all. I regularly hit for more damage than my pet (pet however is still able to hold agro) and Rampage for 400-500+. ATK is the shit when you attack stuff like crabs because no matter how good the DMG on your weapon is, if your ATK is shit, you'll never hit for max damage very often with it. Might as well have a 20 DMG weapon rather than a 46. __________________ BST 75 (Active) \| BRD 75 (Active) DRG 63 (Retired) \| BLM 55 (Semi) WHM 37 (Support) \| NIN 37 (Support) ^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^

06-12-2004, 03:56 PM	#16
overflow Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 174 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	I've never tried charming Amemet =\ or Ose >_> lol might be a rumor @_@.. but then again if Amemet is charmable.. can't you just 2 hour on him.. then hit 1 lizard in kuftal and heel.. then drag it around till all the lizards start beating it to death then charm the lizard and finish amemet off? =\ /grin... i've killed amemet solo like 40+ times hhehe i never tried charming it though =X i don't really want to confirm since amemet can kill me in 7 hits or less...soo @_@... maybe if i was in a PT id try to charm it for kicks.. =X? I've tried charming behemoth... sometimes it says "Behemoth can't be charmed" instead of bound or errr etc.. something it's probably just a bug or something =x!

06-12-2004, 10:37 PM	#17
Keftenk Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 678 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	hehe, yah. im not sure on Amement either. Dejavu is JP, dont understand him clearly. But BB can back me up, the guy is nuts, lol. Yet Ose I have seen, own two eyes....I couldn't believe it.

06-13-2004, 01:21 AM	#19
Nodachi Super Moderator Allied Ribbon of Bravery Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Aurora, CO. Posts: 1,956 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	My question is though. . . if you charm a NM of any sort, how are you going to get the drop?

06-13-2004, 11:04 AM	#20
Keftenk Member Bronze Ribbon of Service Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 678 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	lol, thats simple. have 300% TP for Spirits. go fight stuff with NM(Ose)...(btw this is what Riskycat did). Wait till the NM is in death range of Spirits, decharm (you had it charmed this long cause of Familiar) then Spirited.. easy :D i love you RISKY!! wherever you are!

06-15-2004, 02:14 PM	#23
jaby Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 168 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Hah, even if your charm fails to work, you claimed it. So bam, kill it yourself. Bring a broth pet just incase as well (heard VE is lvl.30?)

06-23-2004, 04:05 AM	#24
Sanguine Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 119 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	Hm, saw a fellow L72 BST in Ru'Aun Gardens tonight use nothing but Light Staff for charming Flamingos. Failed like 1/20 instead of 10/20 like I did with a Monster Signa. So yah, I went and bought one tonight. Gonna go play with it tomorrow. P.S I bought a Hi-Reraiser too ^_^_^_^

06-23-2004, 09:46 AM	#25
Frumply Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 370 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	with a light stave it's not impossible to level in ruaun's from 71 either. right now i'm switching between ifrit's and ruaun. Since this news've been really spreading lately prices've gone up. A patch is fairly imminent, so don't be surprised if the entire thing's nerfed... Square likes to remove overwhelmingly advantageous things such as this.

06-23-2004, 01:58 PM	#28
Frumply Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 370 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	depends a lot on why the light stave is increasing charm rate. NQ elemental staves have +10% damage with a spell of that element, and +10% to lower resist. HQ staves have +15%. _if_ charm is being considered as a spell (and therefore the charm rate, or charm strength, or whatever it is you might want to consider, is increasing by 10%) then there may be an increase. With how well the NQ works I don't see any reason why you'd want to bother with the HQ staff, though. As for the juggernaut... even with the atk+30 i'm not sure if that or tabarzin will be stronger, not that I got money for either. I'll prolly keep using my trial pick and Lohar until i get some cash made...

06-23-2004, 07:42 PM	#30
Frumply Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 370 Style: Light Theme V7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts	meh, i'll just eat a mythkabob instead.

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