Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-05-2007, 07:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
Inspector
 
Verranicus's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cobourg, Ontario
Posts: 72
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Gil: 6,479
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 6,479
Donate
Early Bard Gear?
So, how important is it for me to have things like Monster Signa and Mary's Horn at like 18-20? Because it'll take me quite a while to farm the needed gil for the two of them..

Also, it could just be my shyness, but is it always difficult to find a helpful LS willing to aid me with missions/quests and whatnot? I'm getting tired of not having an LS. x.x Lonely.
Verranicus is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 07:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Tekumel's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 122
Style: Light - Version 5
Thanks: 12
Thanked 9x in 7 Posts
Gil: 794
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 794
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Both of them are pretty much status symbols. I think Mary's Horn is more useful of the two, because not sticking a Lullaby is gonna hit you a lot harder than that Elegy not sticking the first time. Signa's nice to have, especially for BCNMs & the such, but I wouldn't call it anything near required. If nothing else, farm the sheep near Mary's spawn points, and turn the skins you get into leather. Sell those, and if you never see her, or don't get the drop, eventually you'll have enough cash from the leathers to buy the horn. Two stones, one bird...or something like that.

As for the LS...a social LS is easy to find.

A helpful one full of not-asshats isn't easy, but once you find one, hold on for dear life.

Just don't expect it to be a one way street. Give as much as you ask for, and then some if possible.
Tekumel is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 07:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
Inspector
 
Verranicus's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cobourg, Ontario
Posts: 72
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Gil: 6,479
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 6,479
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Well, I'm mining in Zeruhn on a mule to make my money. Full Field set and such.
Verranicus is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 07:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
The BBQ Kitten Revolution
FFXIWiki Team
 
Omgwtfbbqkitten's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Windurst
Posts: 4,893
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 169
Thanked 1,429x in 789 Posts
Gil: 17,550
Bank: 50,017
Total Gil: 67,567
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Signa is a overpriced piece of trash. I'd only recommend one if you've got astral rings you want to put on your fingers instead of CHR Rings. That said, it doesn't give a noticable difference to what BRD (or BST) does and will be obseleted by Light Staff at 51

Mary's Hory is very nice, especially for the level you can get it at and actually is the best Lullaby instrument of the two out there. For whatever odd reason it performs better than Nursemaid's Harp.





Sig by Ragman of the LBR Fan Art Forum
Omgwtfbbqkitten is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 08:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
Inspector
 
Verranicus's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cobourg, Ontario
Posts: 72
Style: Light - Version 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Gil: 6,479
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 6,479
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Hmm. Alright. Then, what should I use instead of the Signa until 51?
Verranicus is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 08:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
That other one
 
Alshandra's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: South Australia
Posts: 141
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 17
Thanked 7x in 7 Posts
Gil: 3,051
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 3,051
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Chanter's Staff LV40?
DPS: 3.28 DMG:20 Delay:366 INT-6 MND+6 CHR+6 Singing skill+4

I have a Signa, but only because my friend doesn't need it and is taking a break from going outside in favor of attaining LV100 crafting. It's bit pricey, and if you have other CHR gear, it's pretty much just a luxury.
As BRD in the lower levels, I wore a sword and melee'd until LV17 when I switched in the signa and then had MP rings on to support heal.

If your'e doing a lot of support/emergency curing, you could wear something that adds MP, etc. like one of the Federation Staves or even something with +MND like the Yew Wand.

I'm only LV36 BRD so my opinion may not count for much, but I really don't think it's too important what you put in your main slot until LV51.

Concentrate more on your instruments, those are the most important, and use the gil your saving for a signa to get the +1 instruments. They are more essential than the signa in my honest opinion.

But hey, if you can get it, go for it! ^^






http:// cerberusatemycookies.blogspot.com
Alshandra is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 09:15 PM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Tekumel's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 122
Style: Light - Version 5
Thanks: 12
Thanked 9x in 7 Posts
Gil: 794
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 794
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Pretty much what Alshandra said. Your weapon really doesn't matter much. If I remember right (I leveled BRD on a different account, a couple years back), I used random daggers until I got the AF weapon, and used one of few shields that BRD can (I can't remember the name) that gave +1 CHR, total of +3 between the two. I'm not familiar with the Chanter's Staff, but that definitely looks like something worth getting.
Tekumel is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 09:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
Digital Wizard
Super Moderator
 
Icemage's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida, USA
Posts: 6,054
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 69
Thanked 478x in 316 Posts
Gil: 1,468
Bank: 151,419
Total Gil: 152,887
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Weapons don't matter for Bards until elemental staves, really. Monster Signa is the most overrated piece of garbage in the game. Save your money and invest in some +CHR food if you're that fanatical about it, but the effects of CHR on bard songs is minimal at best unless you've completely neglected your gear (read: at level 40 you have access to a bunch of nice gear like Jester's Cape and Corsette).

Prior to that, the only instruments that matter are the ones for Minuet, Madrigal, and Lullaby (Mary's Horn). and perhaps a Piccolo+1 if you're a fan of Threnody like me. Everything else might make you feel good, but won't really make you much more effective since you're rarely going to be singing anything but those spells.


Icemage
Icemage is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2007, 09:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
Chocobreeder
 
KingOfZeal's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 475
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 102
Thanked 77x in 50 Posts
Gil: 814
Bank: 86,569
Total Gil: 87,383
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
As far as what Kitten said about the horn versus the harp, that's because a horn is far more accurate than a harp in any situation, and the +2 to lullaby only effects duration. That being said, while I do carry a nursemaid's with me at all times, I don't have the horn. I normally use my Horn +1 (elegy) for Lullaby, or I pull out the harp if it's lower level mobs that are swarming me. For example, Castle O, just past the brass door heading upstairs. I caught agro somehow, and ran all the way back to the zoneline. In this case, I would pull out my harp (50+ lullabies over a significant distance is awesome).

As far as the chanters versus other staves, from what I've read pre-60 you need CHR more than skill. Post 60, you need all the skill you can get, though elemental staves will make up for it. I personally never used the chanters or the signa -- I pretty much took dagger all the way through, swaping out for light/earth staves depending on the song being cast (namely elegy and requiem), but otherwise I'll always have a dagger of some sort and my Elegant Shield (which is what Tek was talking about above).

To make the last bit clearer, 40-51 it may be better to use your Paper Knife (AF), and then alternate between that and your elemental staves where needed after 51. Post-60, you should start focusing on skill more than CHR (since it comes much easier in the higher levels as well). I got a Wind Torque at 68-ish and never looked back.

Also, as a side note, I'm assuming you're low enough that you can still catch up on skill if it's gimped. Keep those music skills capped: I have a harp macrod in for Finale to help keep it up. Even though strings are rarely used, it's much easier to have them close to cap than at only 15 when you do need them.



Kindadarii (Bahamut)
75BRD / 70PUP / 66WHM / 34SMN
68.2 + 2 Woodworking
19.7 Alchemy


Breeding Chocobos? Visit Chocobreeder.com to find chocobos in your area!
KingOfZeal is online now   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2007, 08:54 AM   #10 (permalink)
Dynamis Guru
 
Olorin401's Avatar
FFXI Character Info.
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Roe Dilund
Posts: 586
Style: Light - Version 6
My Mood:
Thanks: 267
Thanked 54x in 45 Posts
Gil: 29,829
Bank: 0
Total Gil: 29,829
Donate
Re: Early Bard Gear?
Originally Posted by Omgwtfbbqkitten View Post
Signa is a overpriced piece of trash. I'd only recommend one if you've got astral rings you want to put on your fingers instead of CHR Rings. That said, it doesn't give a noticable difference to what BRD (or BST) does and will be obseleted by Light Staff at 51.
If you can get your hands on a Chanter's Staff it's also a great piece to have, and it's better for BRDs than Monster Signa.. at least that's just my opinion.

It's a bit pricey - I finally got mine just about a week ago for 140k. And they're VERY rare.. I was waiting for about two months for one to show up on the AH.



Olorin - Ramuh Server
WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM75 SMN39 SCH37 - TheAfterLife LS

Last edited by Olorin401 : 06-06-2007 at 09:07 AM.
Olorin401 is offline   ::Quote Selected:: Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:07 PM.


Site Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.6.8 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. - Modifications by PiNG
©2001-2008 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved. Title Design by Yoshitaka Amano.
FINAL FANTASY and VANA'DIEL are registered trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd. SQUARE ENIX, PLAYONLINE and the PlayOnline logo are trademarks of Square Enix Co., Ltd.
Comments and posts are property of their authors. All the rest, including video, articles, compiled game data, and sections, unless otherwise noted, are
©2002-2008 FFXIOnline.com: Dreams in Vana'diel. All rights reserved.
Page generated in 0.32738 seconds with 25 queries