01-18-2007, 11:54 AM | #1 (permalink) | | Dynamis Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roe Dilund Posts: 583 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 265 Thanked 54x in 45 Posts Gil: 26,677 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 26,677 Donate | Colibri and Elegy Resists Is it just me or are these things really hard to stick an Elegy on? I must fail at LEAST 50% of the time, even with Earth Staff and capped singing/instrument skill.. Olorin - Ramuh Server WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM72 SMN39 SCH37 - TheAfterLife LS  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-18-2007, 11:55 AM | #2 (permalink) | | Loaded With Sodium Oracle of Knowledge Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7,964 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 448 Thanked 1,591x in 1,001 Posts Gil: 3,651 Bank: 33,189 Total Gil: 36,840 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists They are a nightmare to land much of anything on, to be honest. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-18-2007, 12:51 PM | #3 (permalink) | | J...atatouille Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8,338 Style: Light - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 5 Thanked 136x in 106 Posts Gil: 29,423 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 29,423 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists They're wind base too. There are painters who transform the sun into a yellow spot,
but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence
transform a yellow spot into the sun.
- Pablo Picasso | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-18-2007, 12:55 PM | #4 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 179 Style: Dark - Version 5 Thanks: 9 Thanked 32x in 19 Posts Gil: 1,480 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 1,480 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Luckily, I never had to deal with this. However, my wife is leveling BRD (68 now) and has mentioned that she ocassionally fails on them. Considering the fact that her gear is beyond exceptional (Torque, Singing+Wind Earring, Terra's Staff, Minstrel's Coat, ton of CHR filler in other slots), I'd say you're not alone. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-18-2007, 12:59 PM | #5 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,018 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 465x in 306 Posts Gil: 3,146 Bank: 108,404 Total Gil: 111,550 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists They have very high earth and insane wind resistance. Paralyze lands pretty well, being ice-based, but Elegy and Slow are both extremely unreliable against Colibri of all types.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Icemage for above post: | | | 01-18-2007, 01:43 PM | #6 (permalink) | | Dynamis Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roe Dilund Posts: 583 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 265 Thanked 54x in 45 Posts Gil: 26,677 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 26,677 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Originally Posted by Icemage | They have very high earth and insane wind resistance. Paralyze lands pretty well, being ice-based, but Elegy and Slow are both extremely unreliable against Colibri of all types.
Icemage | I should also probably add that I haven't ONCE landed Requiem, which makes me think they have very high Light and/or Dark resistance. Olorin - Ramuh Server WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM72 SMN39 SCH37 - TheAfterLife LS  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-18-2007, 02:00 PM | #7 (permalink) | | Digital Wizard Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 6,018 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 69 Thanked 465x in 306 Posts Gil: 3,146 Bank: 108,404 Total Gil: 111,550 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Requiem is horribly inaccurate against almost everything, light-resistant or otherwise. I've not tried Requiem against Colibri, but it's also very possible that they have unusually high CHR which would make it harder to land. P.S. Don't use it against any of the larger Colibri types... Lesser Colibri don't mimic magics thrown at them, but "Colibri" and "Greater Colibri" most definitely do, and you really don't want a 6 damage+/tick effect on you if you can at all avoid it.
Icemage | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-18-2007, 02:18 PM | #8 (permalink) | | From Beneath You, It Devours Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 3,439 Style: Dark - Version 5 My Mood: Thanks: 43 Thanked 150x in 105 Posts Gil: 18,361 Bank: 56,315 Total Gil: 74,676 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Don't feel bad, I think I fired a stack of acid bolts on various lesser colibri, all told from 56-60 and I think I might have gotten one to actually proc.
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PSN: Caspian | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-19-2007, 05:13 PM | #9 (permalink) | | guitar hero Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: southern illinois Posts: 466 Style: Light - Version 4 Thanks: 4 Thanked 15x in 7 Posts Gil: 1,135 Bank: 10,793 Total Gil: 11,928 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists they have resistance to all elements but ice. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 01-21-2007, 10:06 AM | #10 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 11 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 382 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 382 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists I thought it was just simple magic resistance in any form. Meritting on them, I could stick elegy for a short time (but the reflected it on me). They lullabied just fine, though.
When I was xping on NIN on the littler ones, I couldn't land one enfeeble. RDM struggled as well, but enjoyed curing the mob so it would reflect and cure me. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-13-2007, 08:39 PM | #11 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 5 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 262 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 262 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Couldn't you do the earth resistance down song (I forget the name) and then use elegy?  "The man who has no imagination has no wings." -Muhammad Ali
Jobs: Drk 60 | War 37 | Thf 33 | Mnk 30 | Rng 16 | Nin 20 | Whm 18 | Blm 17 | Smn 20 | Sam 37 | Brd 7 | Drg 10 | Pld 11 | Rdm 17 | Pup 35 | | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-14-2007, 08:30 AM | #12 (permalink) | | Dynamis Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roe Dilund Posts: 583 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 265 Thanked 54x in 45 Posts Gil: 26,677 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 26,677 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Originally Posted by simonjm2 | | Couldn't you do the earth resistance down song (I forget the name) and then use elegy? | The only problem with that is.. Colibris are Wind-based and have a high tolerance to Earth-based magic anyways.
Oh and an update - I partied a couple days ago and we camped the regular Colibris. Without food (CHR 60+26), I couldn't land ANYTHING. So I pulled out a stack of Flint Caviar and the extra CHR+4 put me over the top. I imagine I would've gotten the same benefit from Enchanting Etude, but I didn't want to have to recast it every time we pulled. :p
Also, anything that was reflected back to me didn't stick (probably because my CHR was through the roof). Olorin - Ramuh Server WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM72 SMN39 SCH37 - TheAfterLife LS  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 02-14-2007, 08:44 AM | #13 (permalink) | | Junior Member Administrator Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,930 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 235 Thanked 682x in 347 Posts Gil: 21,846 Bank: 79,478 Total Gil: 101,324 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Pretty much just elaborating on what Olorin said: Earth Threnody is wind based, so Colibris will resist it even harder than Elegy. I suppose you could use Wind Threnody (ice based) to reduce its resistance to Earth Threnody to reduce its resistance to Elegy, but being a Colibri it'd probably be dead by the time you went through all that anyway.  - | | ::Quote Selected:: | | The following user says "Thank You" to Taskmage for above post: | | | 02-28-2007, 12:10 PM | #14 (permalink) | | Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ft Lauderdale FL Posts: 1 Style: Light - Version 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 Posts Gil: 10 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 10 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists I've never had this problem that I recall, currently a 65 Bard, been pulling on Lesser Colibri since ~55, I can't recall if I had problems at first, but from atleast 56+ I hardly got resists.
I almost never get a resist on the regular Colibri either, which I've been camping at since around 61 to my current level. The worry was not landing the spells, but having them cast back at me, which wasn't that big an issue since slow doesn't hurt me much as a bard, even with slow on my songs were ready to cast again when they wore. This being said, I stopped bothering with blink to avoid this when I noticed I was resisting these reflected casts 9/10 times.
Foe Lullaby and Foe Requiem resisted more often, but I was also casting them less, I pulled every time with Elegy, and since they pause for a sec to cast back on me, my parties usually kill the previous one without me needing to sleep it. If I time my pull right, it casts on me and gets back to camp just to get voked.
My setup isn't that great, I have currently 65 + 37 Cha, don't use food since I usually forget it and usually don't need it(not good, I know). +5 singing from af and +3 Wind from af also. No other skill mods, but they are capped, and standard +1 instruments everyone uses, Earth Staff.
Not sure what's so different that I'm not having problems, while on my thf against Lesser Colibri I did notice another bard having problems, but he had less cha gear, and did not have an Earth Staff, so I chalked it up to that at the time. | | ::Quote Selected:: | | 03-01-2007, 08:14 AM | #15 (permalink) | | Dynamis Guru Join Date: May 2006 Location: Roe Dilund Posts: 583 Style: Light - Version 6 My Mood: Thanks: 265 Thanked 54x in 45 Posts Gil: 26,677 Bank: 0 Total Gil: 26,677 Donate | Re: Colibri and Elegy Resists Oh yeah.. I switched from Earth to Terra's Staff about a week ago (they went down in price a little bit I got one for about 800k).. and the difference is AMAZING. That extra 5% boost really helps a lot! Olorin - Ramuh Server WHM75 BRD75 BLM75 RDM72 SMN39 SCH37 - TheAfterLife LS  | | ::Quote Selected:: | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | Posting Rules | You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:36 AM. | | |