Is mary's horn really worth it?

[PanicNow]

Really for as long as it takes to get her to drop it, or for as much as it cost is it really worth it? It only gives you +1 for lullby is it really that noticeable?

[Icemage]

Really for as long as it takes to get her to drop it, or for as much as it cost is it really worth it? It only gives you +1 for lullby is it really that noticeable?

Yes, it really is worth it (one of the very few Bard instruments that's worth its price, alongside Horn+1 and Gjallarhorn).

+1 to Lullaby increases both accuracy and maximum duration (+10 seconds). Considering you're only casting Lullaby when you're in danger of getting pounded into hamburger, this is by far the most useful instrument in your arsenal.


Icemage

[John Doe III]

imo, I dont think it is a *must* for a low level and for somebody who has to spend awhile to get it. Definitely a must past 40 or so I would say, you really take poundings when you get hit then .

[PanicNow]

Yes, it really is worth it (one of the very few Bard instruments that's worth its price, alongside Horn+1 and Gjallarhorn).

+1 to Lullaby increases both accuracy and maximum duration (+10 seconds). Considering you're only casting Lullaby when you're in danger of getting pounded into hamburger, this is by far the most useful instrument in your arsenal.


Icemage

thx for clearing that up now would it be better to have that or the monster signa?

[Icemage]

thx for clearing that up now would it be better to have that or the monster signa?

Mary's Horn is WAY more useful than Monster Signa. Signa is a conversation piece. It doesn't actually do much to help you - if you really want some extra CHR, eat some flint caviar or tuna sushi.


Icemage

[eticket109]

Signa doesn't look as hot when you're laying face up on the ground.

[Taskmage]

Tarutaru lie face down when they die though, which makes the signa useful for finding our diminutive corpses.

[eticket109]

Tarutaru lie face down when they die though, which makes the signa useful for finding our diminutive corpses.

yeah, its sorta like a signal flag for you I suppose

[John Doe III]

How many times do you actually sleep a mob during a PT? If it is going smoothly? PTed two hours lsat night and didn't need to once, I would rather have Signa (which I had) than have brought Mary's Horn. Depends on your level and where your partying.

[Icemage]

How many times do you actually sleep a mob during a PT? If it is going smoothly? PTed two hours lsat night and didn't need to once, I would rather have Signa (which I had) than have brought Mary's Horn. Depends on your level and where your partying.

Once you hit TP-burn levels... constantly. Even before then, it's great to have insurance against links. As for Signa, once you hit level 51, elemental staves trump it (by a wide margin), and even before then there are much more reasonable alternatives.


Icemage

[Skoal]

How many times do you actually sleep a mob during a PT? If it is going smoothly? PTed two hours lsat night and didn't need to once, I would rather have Signa (which I had) than have brought Mary's Horn. Depends on your level and where your partying.

To answer your question: none. If a party is going "smoothly" then no one would have to do anything out of the ordinary.

Also the horn is more useful for other activities than exp (until burn parties).

[John Doe III]

Once you hit TP-burn levels... constantly. Even before then, it's great to have insurance against links. As for Signa, once you hit level 51, elemental staves trump it (by a wide margin), and even before then there are much more reasonable alternatives.
Icemage

Are there TP-burn PT's 30 to 40, not too many inless you find some sort of amazing party. Past 40 you really get the crap beat out of you either way. Between 30-40 you really shouldn't need the money to spend on Mary's Horn. Past 40 if you can afford it then go for it, but Signa should really be first imo. Then when you get to those "reasonable" alternatives you can switch and buy your horn or spend it on something else. Inless you just flat out can't pull and have to sleep an extra mob every time (depending on party can be good or bad) assuming the bad, then you shouldn't pull and neither should the person who is doing it.


I know it is more usefull but is so is Signa depending on your level^^, like the TC's at the moment.

[Taskmage]

There's also the option of Nursemaid's Harp after 60, which gives +2 to lullaby and costs about 10k on my server compared to 500k for the horn.

[Skoal]

Doesn't the type of instrument affect the duration of songs? Or did I have one of those dreams that I thought was real again?

[Icemage]

There's also the option of Nursemaid's Harp after 60, which gives +2 to lullaby and costs about 10k on my server compared to 500k for the horn.

Nursemaids Harp sucks. There's really no other word for it. Because it's a string instrument, it has way lower accuracy than Mary's Horn despite its +2 bonus. Stay way far away from this instrument - you'll actually get better results with a plain vanilla Flute.

Re: John Doe III
I can see Signa being "somewhat" useful in the pre-39 range, but honestly CHR doesn't do very much for offensive song accuracy, and it does nothing for defensive songs. At 40 you get access to Corsette+1 which gives you a hefty chunk of all the CHR you'll ever need, so I can't really see any Bard using a Signa beyond that point for any reason.

Also note that Bards are actually reasonable attackers with a sword for the first 25-30 levels, so your window of usefulness for the Signa is really really small IMO.


Icemage